TreeMotion Saddles In Stock

sean,

As others have said, I appreciate the input. I often see things advertised only to learn they won't be available for who knows when. It's good to know when something becomes available - sure helps with time issues and budget planning.

Thanks,
Ron
 
Mr. Bsaville,

We do not have a deposit-loaner program but do allow full refund on unused gear if returned within 30 days (sometimes longer if within reason). I hope this meets your needs.

Yes, i too have experienced buyers remorse in the past and probably will again in the not too distant future (hopefully minus the pinching effect you so eloquently describe). One of the great things you have to take advantage of on this very web site is someone elses buyer's remorse. I would encourage you to read around.

Best of luck in your search for the perfect match!!

t

P.S. Nothing in this post is written in a negative spirit so please don't mistake it that way. If what i've reported comes as offensive to you (or others) please feel free to pick up a phone and report it to me directly (or perhaps the BBB). Cheers.
 
bsaville, i dont know of any companies out there that would let you test run a saddle witout buying it, did you get to test out your weaver before purchasing it? your best bet is to be a bit more personable with people and maybe they will let you try their saddles, 500 bucks is a lot of money to spend on something you have never tried so if you live around the south jersey area ill let you run around in my saddle for a bit of rec climbing if you would like, or you could read the review i and a lot of others gave the tm on this website, i know its around in the climbing section somewhere, just look at my post sheet, hope it comes of use
 
Crazy Jimmy wrote:

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Please let me know when the triple locking revolver becomes available.

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And Sean Larkin wrote:


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...the triple lock revolver carabiners...

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Triple-lock or double-lock? The proto-type that I saw was double-lock.
 
To be honest Mahk, I was just repeating the terminology used in the question. I know that a revolver biner is on our review list, but i can't say for sure if it's double or triple...
 
Maybe on one end of a friction saver,or maybe a redirect.Beddes attached one on each side of his doubled rope and ran his climbing line through them.Kinda of large retreivable friction saver with benefits of two pulleys instead of rings=less friction.
 
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Beddes attached one on each side of his doubled rope and ran his climbing line through them.Kinda of large retreivable friction saver with benefits of two pulleys instead of rings=less friction.

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Jimmy, do you have a picture of that set up or could you perhaps manage a quick sketch please. Or can anyone else help? thanks
 
I have two of the wire gate versions. I quickly found that the rollers are inefficient compared to small 'micro-pulleys' and cost over twice as much to boot.

I bought two SMC micro-pulleys, with ball bearings, about 95% efficient, from On Rope 1 for $11.50 a piece.

I had used the SMCs to implement a 60' hands-only ascent. I was able to cover the entire 60' in a non-stop trip. I did that twice. Then when Tom came up for a visit/climb and we started up our second tree, I figured I'd rest my legs and use the two Revolvers to implement the hands-only ascent. That's when I realized there was something really different about the setups. I didn't get 30' off the ground before I was exhausted and had to change over to a YoYo to go on.

It finally dawned on me that the difference was in the efficiency of the rollers vs pulleys.

I don't use the Revolvers for climbing any more, but I do have one on my Big Shot implementing a 3:1 pull system. It works in that application, but it appears that the 8mm rope skews off to the side of the roller and may be dragging. I think a pulley would work better and cost less in this application as well.
 
Thanks for the review Ron.

I'm guessing that the barrel has a smaller bend ratio than your micro pulley?

Do you know whether or not the barrels' are set on bearings?
 
Waaay smaller bend ratio than a micro pulley.

The Revolver has to be a 'bushing' type bearing. There's just not enough room in the 'barrel', or sheeve such that it is, for a shaft and bearings.

Very impressive workmanship though.
 
The Revolver wasn't originally designed to be used in the application that arbos are putting it. The original idea was a more efficient quickdraw redirect. In a low load application I can see the benefit compared to using a full-on pulley. When the loads go up there is more of a benefit to using more efficient pulley.

When I've used my Revolver I realize that I'm giving up some mechanical advantage but I gain simplicity and a more stream lined setup.
 
sorry Reg im very computer challenged and have no idea how to download an attachment.Maybe kentucky Limb- can help he used this particular setup with traditional carabiners in a masters climb I think.
 
How long does a saddle like that last? with a Weaver in a few years(climbing alot)tear ahtrings hanging. Yes some places I know let you jump around in a tree out back as long as you want. someplaces sell junk thruogh the mail. A weaver with leg straps and 2 floating Dees is 150.00. It has a lot of loops to hang stuff. I will most likely buy another.
 
I saw the saddle this week, definitely not for use everyday. Amazing that $700 canadian buys something so cheap. Does not look like it would last more than a couple of months for a heavy user.
 
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I saw the saddle this week, definitely not for use everyday. Amazing that $700 canadian buys something so cheap. Does not look like it would last more than a couple of months for a heavy user.

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What amazes me is that a determination of quality and longevity can be issued solely by sight. I sure hope you use more thorough techniques when determining the quality and value of trees.
 
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