The title of this post really sounds fitting to me since all lot of emotions were dug out by Treemotion saddle. Pure coincidence, and I was just itching for a chance to say "YO! This is how I feel". What I have to say really has nothing to do with any equipment and that is for sure. You can disagree with me and don't think I don't learn from those who do.
Treemotion = Tree-e-motion. Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Yes, I am going to be here awhile and want to thank those who at least listen. If you don't agree or think I am wrong and a idiot, please take the time to let me know.
Humans are an emotional entity, I usually operate off a three main emotions: Passion, anger and love. I believe this is typical in all humans to some extent. If you don't agree with this ( out of respect for Mr. Chisholm I won't call you a liar or a fool) but I would have to say you are in denial. We have no choice we are human, some might control their emotions better than others but that don't change much. If you are saying to yourself right now " this guy is a nutjob", you are correct. But that don't change much either. If you don't express emotion in everything you do, you are not alive. That you can't change. I think the term for anyone without emotion is "psychopath".
So with that being said now I can get on. First of all I would like to apologize if I have offended anybody. Yeah right! No way. If I offended you and you didn't stick up for yourself then what can I say. This is a forum speak up! But seriously sometimes I let MY emotions completely take over and that can be unfair. I don't want to "start a fight" but you can't argue with a good argument.
I have been doing this work long enough to call my self an expert and probably would touch on master. Even a master has stuff to learn. The fact that I don't have certification or much formal training in my field has little to do with the fact that I am, in fact, an expert. If you disagree just explain why. Like I said there are 3 sides on the coin , they can all make sense.
Armed with my experience and emotion I make this very general statement about this industry; "What the $#@!?". It is more of a question than a statement but it pretty much sums my feelings. Please note that this comes from a person who really does see the 3 sides. (at least I feel as though I do) If you see another side you should speak up. If you can't see it my way, his way and your way well I guess that is called tunnel vision and as far as I know that is "not good"
It is true the with the nature of the forum things can be easily taken out of context. Don't think that I am just a whiner who just wants to poke fun and criticize. I know I hit some people over the head and will most assuredly try to be more... uhm understanding? But I will call a shovel a shovel under any circumstance.
Just to bring up one topic that has my emotions going is how so many of us are so judgemental of others who do this work, I believe you refer to most of them as "Hacks". It looks like some of you really think that you are the only ones who are allowed to operate. I tell you this, if you put a picture up of 3 guys roping down a limb and say they are hacks, well that doesn't prove anything. First of all I can never tell what is going on just by pictures. Its like doing drive by estimates. Honestly, if you see someone out there doing bad work it really is none of your business. Its not your job and if you bid on it and didn't get the job and then you find out that it was done by someone under your level-that is called the customer's prerogative. Besides it never is as bad as some of you make out.
My first job in this field was with TreeCo down in S. Delaware. Hey Danny, do you know how many times I almost got killed, killed somebody, or destroyed your expensive property? Yes I am sure you know of some of some but not all. Danny tried to do good work and mostly did but the rest of his co was nothing but danger and guys making mistakes all over.His partner ran my over once and was always running things over. To me that is a hack. That's the truth there Danny, I was lucky to make it out alive. I like you and all but that don't mean I will never piss you off. Back then he would top a tree, I don't know now. Depending on the circumstance I would too. Neither of us are hacks.
I though Danny was a good guy back then, not to say he was not a [censored], he was and still is it appears. He had alot a patience and tried hard to be the best he could be in every aspect of his business. But we all know how a lot of important things are swept under the carpet because you can't be perfect.
I have worked with a lot of Certified guys and I have to say alot were quite incompetent. It hurts my ears to hear one of them rattle off ansi standards and other guidelines but they really had no heart in this business. They try to tell me stuff I allready know is B.S. They run around the job in a panic looking for their hardhats and only bring confusion and contempt and try to outwit. I am not talking about every certified guy out there.
It really doesn't matter if some hack messes up trees.No one's company is perfect.If you are really concerned about other company's work you should attempt to tell them so. If you see someone operating in a manner unbecoming to you should speak up to them, not me. Then you can post how you really helped out. Not by making fun of them. If they take offense to your meddling well that's because it really is none of your business.
As far as hurting trees- so what? There are tons of trees being planted by all sorts of organizations. Me for one. I think if you really want to save all the trees you should marter your life. Besides it is all about money anyway. If you don't like to see hacks drop your prices so the not-rich have acsess to your skills.
This is only the start. Ben.
Treemotion = Tree-e-motion. Sometimes I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Yes, I am going to be here awhile and want to thank those who at least listen. If you don't agree or think I am wrong and a idiot, please take the time to let me know.
Humans are an emotional entity, I usually operate off a three main emotions: Passion, anger and love. I believe this is typical in all humans to some extent. If you don't agree with this ( out of respect for Mr. Chisholm I won't call you a liar or a fool) but I would have to say you are in denial. We have no choice we are human, some might control their emotions better than others but that don't change much. If you are saying to yourself right now " this guy is a nutjob", you are correct. But that don't change much either. If you don't express emotion in everything you do, you are not alive. That you can't change. I think the term for anyone without emotion is "psychopath".
So with that being said now I can get on. First of all I would like to apologize if I have offended anybody. Yeah right! No way. If I offended you and you didn't stick up for yourself then what can I say. This is a forum speak up! But seriously sometimes I let MY emotions completely take over and that can be unfair. I don't want to "start a fight" but you can't argue with a good argument.
I have been doing this work long enough to call my self an expert and probably would touch on master. Even a master has stuff to learn. The fact that I don't have certification or much formal training in my field has little to do with the fact that I am, in fact, an expert. If you disagree just explain why. Like I said there are 3 sides on the coin , they can all make sense.
Armed with my experience and emotion I make this very general statement about this industry; "What the $#@!?". It is more of a question than a statement but it pretty much sums my feelings. Please note that this comes from a person who really does see the 3 sides. (at least I feel as though I do) If you see another side you should speak up. If you can't see it my way, his way and your way well I guess that is called tunnel vision and as far as I know that is "not good"
It is true the with the nature of the forum things can be easily taken out of context. Don't think that I am just a whiner who just wants to poke fun and criticize. I know I hit some people over the head and will most assuredly try to be more... uhm understanding? But I will call a shovel a shovel under any circumstance.
Just to bring up one topic that has my emotions going is how so many of us are so judgemental of others who do this work, I believe you refer to most of them as "Hacks". It looks like some of you really think that you are the only ones who are allowed to operate. I tell you this, if you put a picture up of 3 guys roping down a limb and say they are hacks, well that doesn't prove anything. First of all I can never tell what is going on just by pictures. Its like doing drive by estimates. Honestly, if you see someone out there doing bad work it really is none of your business. Its not your job and if you bid on it and didn't get the job and then you find out that it was done by someone under your level-that is called the customer's prerogative. Besides it never is as bad as some of you make out.
My first job in this field was with TreeCo down in S. Delaware. Hey Danny, do you know how many times I almost got killed, killed somebody, or destroyed your expensive property? Yes I am sure you know of some of some but not all. Danny tried to do good work and mostly did but the rest of his co was nothing but danger and guys making mistakes all over.His partner ran my over once and was always running things over. To me that is a hack. That's the truth there Danny, I was lucky to make it out alive. I like you and all but that don't mean I will never piss you off. Back then he would top a tree, I don't know now. Depending on the circumstance I would too. Neither of us are hacks.
I though Danny was a good guy back then, not to say he was not a [censored], he was and still is it appears. He had alot a patience and tried hard to be the best he could be in every aspect of his business. But we all know how a lot of important things are swept under the carpet because you can't be perfect.
I have worked with a lot of Certified guys and I have to say alot were quite incompetent. It hurts my ears to hear one of them rattle off ansi standards and other guidelines but they really had no heart in this business. They try to tell me stuff I allready know is B.S. They run around the job in a panic looking for their hardhats and only bring confusion and contempt and try to outwit. I am not talking about every certified guy out there.
It really doesn't matter if some hack messes up trees.No one's company is perfect.If you are really concerned about other company's work you should attempt to tell them so. If you see someone operating in a manner unbecoming to you should speak up to them, not me. Then you can post how you really helped out. Not by making fun of them. If they take offense to your meddling well that's because it really is none of your business.
As far as hurting trees- so what? There are tons of trees being planted by all sorts of organizations. Me for one. I think if you really want to save all the trees you should marter your life. Besides it is all about money anyway. If you don't like to see hacks drop your prices so the not-rich have acsess to your skills.
This is only the start. Ben.
