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thats about the truth of it right there.
Ive known plenty of hard-knockers who switched over to SRT right away. Ive known people with a diploma who applied SRT to other facets of life, like climbing masts on heavy steam fishing boats in Alska, and Ireland.
One of the things I think Benjamin is overlooking is the fact that 1. master, or not, he could be utilising the SRT more dramatically in take down scenarios. 2. I think a lot of his resentment towards his previous employers stems from 1099 squabbles and an under-apprecitaed sense of petiole-responsibility. I mean, we all have to make money right? But nobody wants to see trees get hurt needlessly.
Also, enough with the name-calling.
Climb on, climb high, and climb safe!!!
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I think you missed the point. It has nothing to do with climbing, but how a proffesional tree service is portrayed versus what it really is. I never had a squabble over money, that would be petty. Besides I usually just said "give me my money" and that was enough. What is a 1099?
As far as your comment on trees getting hurt needlessly: that is more on the lines of what I am refering to.
A company will travel a long way to service some trees if the money is right. Sure that's the idea. How about all the trees along the road, forests, and landscape that get driving by every day. You don't care about them because there is no dollar signs in them. A tree co owner really has one objective which is to make as much money as he can. That is hard enough to do with all the pitfalls involved and the tree care aspect is lost in the madness of business. I "run" Kimberton Tree, but I am no businessman.
It all comes down to if you can afford to pay me I will save the trees. You get wrapped up in making sure your business survives and that is priority. I have said that if you want to save the trees the best thing to do is die because we want what we want. If it means chopping down trees for a pool or a building to make nice cars for people to drive to the mall, we will do it without a moments waste.
The fact that it is a bidding war is really sorrowful. I would like to say to potential cutomers" Look I want to take care of your trees so that they are in good hands, get the best estimate you can and I will see if I can do it for that". That might be taken as unfair in business but maybe it would be better for the trees. When I do an estimate I want to say" how much are you willing to pay for a good job?" and go form there. They just want the best price. Can you blame either of us?
Why one co would be less than another is an important thing to consider. But all the people qualified to do the job should be able to do it at the same price, I think. As far as I know I am not a COMMY. But I do feel that if you won't do the job because you want more than someone else you don't relly care about "those" trees. Or you are doing something wrong.
This business(to me) has little to do with tree care and has more to do with people care. What I mean is saving the people from the trees. People need trees, trees do not need people. They will be fine if we leave them alone. In fact, if we do leave them alone they will cover the earth so densly we would have no place to live ( except in them). Now there is something, what if we all lived in trees for houses in stead of cuuting them down or back to make room for ourselves. Personally I would like to live in a loin cloth and swing from vines but since we are human we can't and surely won't. We like our comfort and now we need it.
I try to do what I can to keep cost down so I feel that I am less of a business and more about trees. The church I go to wants to take some trees down to build a parking lot and they want me to do it. The church wants to use the lot to rent to people in the city who have no place to park their very nice and clean cars. The church will use this money to keep it self going. The church is there to save people, not trees. What would you do? CA or not. I am going to chop em down, chip em up and haul em away. If you had to top a live oak to save a life would yoo? Would you do it to save your business?
Like I said, it doesn't matter if trees get mesed up by hacks or anybady else. All that matters is that we are safe from them and can live around them. If we not safe or even don't want to live around them(" OH, I just hate that tree, its so messy!) we will cut it down. That is businees and business sucks, I wish I had listened to my wife and bought the ice cream stand instead of working in this very contoversial feild. Hey, who is gonna turn down ice cream? You can charge as much as you like and people will line up for it. They don't shop around for the best price on a tin roof sundae.
I do know what
a 1099 is.