Great idea, John! Is there a spring in there or something?
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John_KAYS
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Yes there is a spring in that one. It makes switching the Rope Wrench on and off a line quite fun. I even used the bulkiest gloves I could find and still had no trouble operating it.
Again, that's a great idea. When I was flying the RR, one of my hang ups was taking my gloves off to disassemble the unit when relocating the line through a real iffy union (iffy like, "will this get stuck or not?"). That would sure solve a lot of frustration. Maybe you could attach the tool to some sort of retractable keychain lanyards. I know lots of climbers that use those to attach whistles up inside their helmets somewhere.
Can you make the one for the RR with a slot down the inner tube, and a red line or scribed mark that denotes that "tunnel" location on the outer surface? That way, the outer lock could be bypassed and the tool could slide right on to the inner lock. Does that make sense? It would be a two cycle operation, but perhaps it could work?
John_KAYS
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Having never held the RR in my hands, I am not even sure how the slic pins operate entirely in its function. So I am not the most qualified for making any comments on how exactly this tool would work in the entire dismantle. I was really only thinking about the slic pin itself. My design is based off of the Rope Wrench's slic pin and only needs to get it through the first side of the Wrench to do its job. How do the pins on the Rope Runner work? After the barbs get through the first side plate do they both need to be pressed down again to get the rope in?
monkeylove
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John it's dark and to dang cold out but in the morning I will headout to the truck and grab my RR. I think your design will work but I can't actually remember exactly how the double lock slic pin works. I will post some pics and try to give a detailed answer.
John_KAYS
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It is dang cold out... Wait, don't you live just south east of me? I live up past Allentown. How close to the Willow Grove Mall are you? We missed the last blizzard, but there's more ice and snow coming!
monkeylove
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About a mile John, lol. I am thinking that the pin does need to go partially through the second side to get the rope through. However I think that can be addressed by a ring. Imagine your tube with a short section of tube welded 90 degrees to its side. Use your tube on the first side release. Now turn the tube 90 degrees and slide the short tube over the pin to release the pin from the second side. I don't think you will be able to control the depth of the pin very well so a pin leash may be needed so thst it can just be 100% removed and not dropped.
monkeylove
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There might be a leash already John or maybe it's on the bottom. I have been playing with so many different inventions lately I can't keep them all straight.
monkeylove
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John_KAYS
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I have family down there so I know the area pretty well! Thanks for the pictures...I'm glad you didn't have to go out in the cold to get them. I like the idea of the short section I think I understand what you are saying. All I need is a Rope Runner...I'm just going to leave it at that.
monkeylove
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John as soon as I got the RR in my hands this morning it became obvious that what I suggested (the ring) will not work. As designed, the RR with the double lock slic pin makes it almost impossible to remove the pin from the second side without using your fingers. The tube idea works great on the first side but there just is not enough room between the plates and the rope to get much in there to aid in the release (less than an 1/8").
John_KAYS
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Thanks for checking monkeylove.
Paul Hedderly
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Would a small tool like an open-ended spanner help? So long as the slic was on the side that you shove the tool - it would just replace your fingers and be easy to use with gloves on. Tether it of course.
I'm picturing something like a lego character hand - just bigger. Slip it over the pin and push/pull the pin.
I'm picturing something like a lego character hand - just bigger. Slip it over the pin and push/pull the pin.
John_KAYS
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I was thinking that also. I also thought about attaching two "half pipes" to a pair of small pliers...But then it seems like it's getting a little out of hand...
I think I'll go back to being very basic with it. The tool works really well with the Rope Wrench, and I am going to try a simple adaptation to make it work for the Rope Runner's inner complication too.
I'll get to try it out on a Rope Runner soon (thanks to oceans) and see if it works easily enough.
monkeylove
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Paul that concept would probably work very well. I never even tried that, but will definitely give it a go tomorrow at work.
MikePowers321
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ML, what is your real job? Do you work with metal a lot? Machinist?
monkeylove
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Mike, I've been a Toolmaker for 30 years, with sbout 10 overlapping years doing 3D design and part\assembly development. While I do alot of engineering type work but will never refer to myself as an Engineer (no diploma saying as such). I do still program and run cnc's when it's called for but i can usally find somebody further down the chain to do that now a days. For many years along my path I built custom motorcycles before the times when you just bolted stuff on to call them custom. I still keep my hands busy when not at doing this along with roofing, construction, plumbing and so on.
Paul Hedderly
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Yey do it! I dont have a runner or any slics, but I want to see it in metal
Bonus points for making it in polymorph dyed yellow
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Hoowasat
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Why metal? A thick plastic flat bar would work. Drill two holes, one at each end of the bar, make three hacksaw cuts to "open up" the hole at the working end, and use the other hole to attach a lanyard made from pull-starter rope. Shape & deburr to suit your tastes. If you insist on metal, make it from a 3/8" thick piece of aluminum flat bar.
