throw lines

well, i guess since i dont use a $100 (cdn $) fabric cube (the faltimer costs about 100 bucks up here), i must not be in the great ranks of the uber climbers......even though my free 5 gallon pail works great. I'm so ashamed at not going into debt so i can own a bling bling bling piece of fabric.

does'nt really matter anyways, cuz i spur up the trees 99.9% of the time anyways

:)
 
Ha! I get made fun of at work for using a rope bag for my climbing line... if I pulled out a little bag for my throwline I'd probably get fired!!!

Seriously though... I'd love a folding cube: thinking of designing and constructing my own for use in the woods where line tangling twiggs are a real bother. I'm serious about geting fired though: my boss is as narrow minded as an arrow. Something of that sort just wouldn't compute.
 
Gaia, maybe start the boss out with a tarp. I think the tarp is less "out there" and it seems to make sense AND it's not fancy schmancy.

Then when he's just starting to dig it, whip out the faltheimer!

love
nick
 
I used to work for people that hated it when id bust out my throw line...refuse to spike a live tree...ect... Thats why I started my own company and now i am allowed to be safe and try ne techniques ALL of the time :)
 
I have had several of the cheap cubes. They're Ok, but a Faltheimer or the Sherril version is in the works. I've also used 5 gallon pails.

But a great tool is a reel. I have two that PSRopes Plasma came on. I cut off the top part of the reel so that it is open faced. Diameter of the reel is about 8-9 inches, so 200 feet of line can be wrapped quite quickly. It almost always flakes off smoothly, unlike what happens when line from inside a cheap cube or bucket is deployed. If it has been jostled around for some time, the likelihood of tangles is not small...especially with 1.75 mm ZI..
 
Having a tangled throwline, for me, is one of those subtle early-indicators that tells me maybe other stuff isn't in good enough order. Time to pause, reflect, and attentively check all the other little things that can put a hitch (no pun intended) in a smooth day.

Working in shorter trees for a while and then getting that magically tangled gift in your hand as the line pays out from a primo throw into the heights might cause one to take the cure.

End-for-end the throwline every couple of weeks if it hasn't been fully extended in the mean time. I flake a bunch (40'?) in the bottom of the fold bag and then put the insert and stack the rest. I don't use the whole bucket for most work. Handier to dump the contents and then have the other end already in order.
 
I was thinking about it the other day that they really ought to add a throwline untangling contest into the ITCC. Like everybody gets three lines tangled up by three different people and the person with the best average time to have each whole line untangled wins!
I often tell people that I keep ropes and lines untangled for a living. Back when I first started really climbing, I would tie myself up in the tree sometimes. A couple of times I was brought to tears by frustration over some bad tangles. I was constantly breaking my nails trying to undo tangles in throwline. Its an area in which experience has started to pay off. Now, ill take anyone on head to head in an untangling contest. Its all about swallowing your frustration, taking some deep breaths and thinking like like throw line. "how would I wrap my self into a tight little wad if I were 200 feet of very thin line?" Its all about releasing the caught loops. Oh, and tuning out your boss or your crew sitting around idle waiting for you. "breathe, no pressure, relax"
speaking of throwline, I made a nice clothesline yesterday with old zing it. its nice because you can barely see it when there are not any clothes on it. Its above head level, safety first you know.
 
Back again.

While in my big box home supply store i spotted masons line on a roller. it looks like something you would store kite string on but heavier, this had a reel effect.

Has anyone see or used this?



enjoy the trees you climb

jz
 
I see some people use masons line but it isn't well suited. It snags and comes unlaid making a mess. The line is pretty stretchy too. When it comes time to manipulate the throwbag and bounce it around a stretchy line is a liability.
 
Jersey girl, your idea is only slightly better than wrapping it around a stick. A plastic bag would be far better in use. Give them both a shot and let us know if you agree...

love
nick
 
OK - I can see me now in my yard with my new grover climbing shirt on - helmeted for all the neighbors to see.

Chucking line in a tree that is tied to a kite sting thingy or stached in a big plastic bag, and you guys have 100$ square. simple just might not work RIGHT??

YA BE - i can look silly - pictures can be provided

time IF anyone want to be the spectator will be sunday


having a fun time as i age with grace

thanks for the suggestions

jz
 
Sherril's has the falsehiemer cube on sale right now for $37US. I just got one and like it a lot better than the little blue fold-n-hold cube... which is now my splicing kit bag.

I'm trying to think of a good way to keep two lines in it and still fold it all the way down though. I'm using a towel at the moment but it's too bulky.
 
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Please do! I could actually win that one... In another life I used to cable buildings for ethernet and wound up teasing 400' or 500' tangles a number of times. Untangling is meditative for me and unless I'm in a hurry, I don't mind doing it... kind of like sharpening the saws.

One lesson learned from those big cable tangles... everything is a loop. When you untangle, find the loops that have snugged down on other loops... don't pull an end through or you turn a loop into a knot.
 
Fold n hold cubes are cheap and flimsy, they break really easy and then they are worthless. I personally use the original folding cube and love it! Sherill has the knock off version for half the price and it's well worth the money spent!
 
I had more fun pulling the twigs and leaves out of the flip line today, i put the line on the ground, OPPS, but when i was done, i wrapped in BACK onto the cardboard holder that some kind person make for it. My only complaint today, was the line was to short for the throws i was making and i had to try to catch the cardboard before it went UP the tree.

I will say, i could be a one WOMAN entertainment act. pulling dead wood and dodging leaves.

NOTE to self - Self BUY more line


gee it was a fun day. maybe this is practice for Kentucky. he he

jz
 
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