The Stein Arbor Trolley looks sweet

yeah that's what Reg said but the frame is just the same. I just got ripped on the wheels (and hardware) after waiting an extended period. Very un-Treestuff-like.
 
David,

TreeStuff, doesnt package the arbor trolley or produce it. They are shipped in a sealed Stein box to TreeStuff and then shipped to the retail customer. However I am positive that if you call Reg, or Luke they will do whatever it takes to make it right.

Remember, somewhere in the chain of events is a person whose only job is too put things in boxes. People make mistakes and people who cant get a better job than packing boxes all day, make more than others I imagine.

I hope you give Stein and/or Treestuff the chance to make it right.

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On another note, I used the heck out of my trolley today. We had a full day of removals at a Lubrizol Plant (no photos/video allowed on campus). We flopped an oak tree and after limbing it, cut the majority of the stem right onto the trolley after taking the handles off. My calcs on the GLWC put it right around 1000 lbs. I was on a slight right to left grade (compared to the trolley) and the weight of the log rolled the downhill tire, it smushed up something awfull and looked ruined for sure. I grabbed the chipper winch cable, ran it to the log, via some tree-directs and gave her a pull. The tire popped right up, no problem good as new.

I used it to stack small logs, move 12' monsters, brush, everything. I feel like I am just echoing earlier sentiment, but comparing it to a ball cart (or worse a wheel barrel) and it makes you feel dumb for not getting it sooner. Moving logs becomes really as simple as tipping it on, and then just walking.

On top of all that I realized it fits in the feed tray of our chipper, so its now going to every single job.

After work my buddy and I went and put down a $$$ side job, that we would have had to walk away from without some kind of cart or mechanical means to move the logs. The Arbor Trolley made us an extra $300 easy. We couldnt have done the job without it, and with it I moved a huge pile of logs all the way across the yard no problem. (we could have done it obviously, but wouldnt have I guess is more accurate)

Here is just some of the wood, a lot of the smaller logs went with the brush in the woods.

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David,

TreeStuff, doesnt package the arbor trolley or produce it. They are shipped in a sealed Stein box to TreeStuff and then shipped to the retail customer. However I am positive that if you call Reg, or Luke they will do whatever it takes to make it right.

Remember, somewhere in the chain of events is a person whose only job is too put things in boxes. People make mistakes and people who cant get a better job than packing boxes all day, make more than others I imagine.

I hope you give Stein and/or Treestuff the chance to make it right.


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Of course Mr. Bonner I am aware there is a distributer and that Treestuff is not the packager. But I am also aware that the ability to post on this subject might just put a little added pressure on the seller to rectify this. I have spoken with Reg, who, like me, is just a day to day Arborist and not in the mix here other than his ability to influence. Being the stand up guy that Reg is, he offered to send me the wheels of his personal cart. I declined of course.

I am disappointed in the lag of delivery time, the lack of hardware and then subsequent lack of checking if full hardware was sent afterwards (NOT) after contacting Luke. I am really unhappy that I was sent sub standard integral pieces (tires). Now that I am beginning to EXPECT another faux pas I am doing my best to not have that happen. Glad you are seemingly very content with your entire transaction.
 
I have this image of you saying Mr. Bonner just like Smith in the Matrix! lol

I really hope it works out for you, and I am sure it will. Have faith.
 
Ok here is what I am finding is the magic of the arbor trolley: When I bought it I was envisioning only using it to move material that I couldnt get my rig near. I am now finding it incredibly useful as a chipping "bench". Stacking the trolley about half loaded and then wheeling it right up to the chipper at exactly the right angle - and right height to not have to bend over as far- and feeding it straight in. Truly a material handling device . I was thinking of it in terms of an appliance delivery not having a dolly. On this job that I considered really good access the AT saved me several hours so far.
 
Skew, thanks for that post. I like shinny new tools, I know that about myself and thus I look for ways that I could do without a tool and do just fine. I don’t like the idea of having to move one more tool from job to job and I am clear that I could do every tree on out in the future without the Arbor Trolley. That being said you bring up a number of time saving facets that are important to me. Any tool that can save more than it costs in time and effort in a short period of time looks like a good investment to me. Guess I’ll start looking at how to mount one on my chipper.

treevet, thanks for your post. Sorry you went/are going through, some hardship on this. I know I like things to work well and be right when I put money and or time into them (especially as price goes up). You’re post will help me and others to not have to experience the same thing.
 
You're welcome Merle, that is part of why we are here and all in this thing together. I just was forced to finally buy an ms 201 a couple of days ago and the first place I looked was here and found Mark Chisolm's thread and review. I too plan to use Nick Bonner's idea of chipper chute storage...but adding a lock.
 
Good news in that Stein is going to send me pre modified solid wheels so they will fit my trolley. Luke was going to handle all the tire/wheel costs (and I was going to fab the axle) but I assume Stein is instead. Can't wait to get them. I also plan to use it for my heavy wheelbarrow compressor movement when I paint equipment. Those ready to buy may be interested that likely this will not repeat itself when they order. Cheers to Stein.

Boss at Stein read the thread and this happened the way it should thanks to the Buzz.
 
Ok a little more and that's it: I too have used mine every day and I estimate this device saved me no less than 10 hours this week. This tool , like I said, is not just a brush mover but a material handler.
I have fondly named mine "arbor Charley" after my bro Charles who has dragged boat loads of brush for me.
I want to be a rep for this tool. If you don't get one of these ASAP you are shooting yourself in the foot!
 
I absolutely love my arbor trolley. If I wasn't past the age of raising a family, I'd be naming children after it!

Having said that, I've noticed a couple minor details that could make it more effective. I thought I'd share the details so that cart owners can be mindful of them.

The most significant problem I encountered was moving the trolley loaded with brush through a gate, and barking one of the tires against the gate post. I didn't think anything of it until the cart suddenly became harder to push and turn. It was then I noticed that the spring loaded ring/pin and large washer which secure the tire to the axel had fallen off the cart and the tire was working its way off the axel. Fortunately I was working in my own back yard, and remembered bumping the gate, so a quick search resulted in the retrieval of both items. It might not be a bad idea to carry redundant ring/pins and washers on your truck, so that an event like that doesn't render the cart useless. I don't want to contemplate going back to my "pre-trolley" days!

The black rubber bumpers on the tips of the staves have started coming off. It's too bad they weren't fastened with adhesive during assembly. One went missing the 2nd day I used the cart. (I was doing a larger than normal job for me, and had hired ground help, who were using the trolley.) The bumpers aren't mission critical, but I think that during an unexpected impact encounter with a stave, it might mean the difference between a bruise, and a gouge.

I'm glad that it seems that Stein is now issuing the device with solid tires. Mine came with one flat in the carton, and that one continues to lose air slowly and go flat every few days. I'd rather not have to carry around a bike pump with me. My truck is already loaded with tools.

I think I'm going to see if I can get a steel or aluminum plate made in the shape of an Isoceles trapezoid, to fit over the rear of the cart, to add a larger footprint for moving large rounds and trunk/stump sections, as well as b&b & container grown trees.

I work mostly as a one-man-band, and I'm fastidious about inspecting and maintaining my tools, but I can see where crew members might not have the same commitment to gear preservation, and a washer, pin, rubber stopper, or a wheel for that matter, might be lost, and and remain unnoticed until arriving at the next jobsite.

None of these issues are anywhere near being deal breakers, but if you own a Trolley, watch out going through gates, and give the unit a frequent inspection interval.
 
Cerviar,

I am not sure what you mean about the steel plate, can you give a bit more detail?

Regarding the rubber things I had the same issue, I lost 2 of them before I put my foot down. I chose to make sure the second handle had them and scavenged one from one of the uprights/staves. I took all the remaining boots off, and the molded hand grips, dampened it with some water from my cooler, smeared on a small amount of gorilla glue and squirmed them all back on. They will never move again, which is nice because the molded hand grips point just perfectly down.

They sell solid tires at Harbor Freight, $30 or so I believe.

I smaked the axle on a gate a few times, and even thought about loosing a pin. I didnt grab a washer but I have grabbed an extra pin. I still think the pins on the AT are better than the ones of both ballcarts where I work (not sure what they are called but its like a 3/4 washer deal...)

I put some grease on the axle, and shot some into the center of the wheels....its smooth!
 
Like Mr. Cerviarborist, my tire (cheapo) was flat on delivery, then after airing it again went flat (one) on the first day of use. Being the persistent type I am, I got a Bonnerized tire and all was good...until like above, the ring retainer pulled out by brush or whatever and the washer and tire fell off. Have to watch out your bearing doesn't get lost too. I am soon to replace it with a cotter pin that cannot snag and pull out under any circumstances.

Don't think you will find the right wheel at Harbor Freight and were I you, I would appeal to Stein to make good to you like they did to me to get a solid neat bright orange tire. Cheers to Stein.
 
Those rubber stoppers on the stakes fell off the first day. I replaced them with hi-vee duck tape. This makes them easy to see theou all the brush. But I have also racked the back of my hand with the stakes pretty good pretty good so they can get you if they are unprotected
 
I love the cart as well. What would be sweet is a tarp/bag that fits over the 4 poles for the final cleanup. Could of course have one made myself, but i'm to lazy (thats why I bought the cart first place :-))
 
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