This is why I like my X rings without the choker style eye, I cut off the choker eye off my double braid sling so I can cowhitch or timberhitch it. Makes for better adjustments, and I can get it snugger. It is not that much slower but I have never been a fan of Loopies or whoopies. I have many different lengths and combos for the trees I work on down here with all the redirects I use..
Tall Skinny Pine Rig
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Daniel
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- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
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I like it... good job. I did notice that while you were taking the ride after the top came out your flip line slipped down past the block on to the rigging. May be brace your self better by pushing against the trunk that way slack wont develop in the flip line...?
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I think the Bix had a good strategy for taking the ride.. he left a nice handle... The lanyard slipping down over the rigging line was not so much an issue as the rubbing of the rigging line over the choked climb line... Looked like some significant friction over a small area near the splice... no good!
I like to keep both the lanyard and the climbing line set just under the sling and above the block, that way they don't get slammed by the block, rubbed by the line, or slip over the spar..
My favorite part of the job was using the redirect to the truck to incline plane the limbs over the fence... NICE!!!!
I like it... good job. I did notice that while you were taking the ride after the top came out your flip line slipped down past the block on to the rigging. May be brace your self better by pushing against the trunk that way slack wont develop in the flip line...?
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I think the Bix had a good strategy for taking the ride.. he left a nice handle... The lanyard slipping down over the rigging line was not so much an issue as the rubbing of the rigging line over the choked climb line... Looked like some significant friction over a small area near the splice... no good!
I like to keep both the lanyard and the climbing line set just under the sling and above the block, that way they don't get slammed by the block, rubbed by the line, or slip over the spar..
My favorite part of the job was using the redirect to the truck to incline plane the limbs over the fence... NICE!!!!
Daniel
Carpal tunnel level member
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- Suburban Philadelphia (Wayne)
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Daniel has like 200.
You have done in 25 videos what Daniel will be lucky to ever achieve in his lifetime.
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Whiny little bitch... LOL
Daniel has like 200.
You have done in 25 videos what Daniel will be lucky to ever achieve in his lifetime.
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Whiny little bitch... LOL
Bixler
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- Nevada City, CA
I noticed this at work yesterday. I was wondering what it was from. Now I know... thanks Murph. Above the block, below the sling, got it. It wouldn't take long for me to carve out a safe place for the climb line under the block. That way the steel core is above the block, and the climb line can stay below, just a thought. I would be hesitant to put both lines up there in the same spot, no?
-Evo, good point about leaning back into your flipline. Well noted. I've got to admit I was playing cameraman at that point. Hell of a wobbly ride though.
-CHOPPER, the ring kept the system tight, and just felt more safe. Also, like Murph touched on, it helped zip the limbs to the landing because we had it maybe 40ft up the trunk.
-Well thank you MistaBen
-Evo, good point about leaning back into your flipline. Well noted. I've got to admit I was playing cameraman at that point. Hell of a wobbly ride though.
-CHOPPER, the ring kept the system tight, and just felt more safe. Also, like Murph touched on, it helped zip the limbs to the landing because we had it maybe 40ft up the trunk.
-Well thank you MistaBen
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A very easy to watch and well done vid,great choice of music too!
I'm not to sure of the reason for the X ring for that application as the lowering rope seemed to run down the trunk.
Also the shortening on the sling that you did to get the eye close to the trunk,in that manner, would under load,pull out the twists somewhat and loose that close to the wood aspect.
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Your NOT SURE FOR THE X RING FOR THAT APPLICATION ?
Well, he gave the pine stem some support in case he took a large peice. But for his intended application, it gave just a little friction so the groundperson didn't need a lowering device on small limbs. Then to compliment the system. The ground person used the lowering tail as a make shift speedline to inspire the lowered limbs to travel out farther.
Oh and that wrapped rigging ring sling was not coming un -twisted. Get real.
A very easy to watch and well done vid,great choice of music too!
I'm not to sure of the reason for the X ring for that application as the lowering rope seemed to run down the trunk.
Also the shortening on the sling that you did to get the eye close to the trunk,in that manner, would under load,pull out the twists somewhat and loose that close to the wood aspect.
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Your NOT SURE FOR THE X RING FOR THAT APPLICATION ?
Well, he gave the pine stem some support in case he took a large peice. But for his intended application, it gave just a little friction so the groundperson didn't need a lowering device on small limbs. Then to compliment the system. The ground person used the lowering tail as a make shift speedline to inspire the lowered limbs to travel out farther.
Oh and that wrapped rigging ring sling was not coming un -twisted. Get real.
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This is why I like my X rings without the choker style eye, I cut off the choker eye off my double braid sling so I can cowhitch or timberhitch it. Makes for better adjustments, and I can get it snugger. It is not that much slower but I have never been a fan of Loopies or whoopies. I have many different lengths and combos for the trees I work on down here with all the redirects I use..
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Swing, You are a good guy and this is not against you, but there are many ways to adjust your sling length and be more versitile with the large eye in place. I'm sorry if I have failed with videos to demonstrate.
Especially with a long X-Rigging ring sling, you have a fast and easy way to keep the ring tight against the tree without having to tie anything.
bixlers length was close, but not able to be perfect, he did good with what he had.
This is why I like my X rings without the choker style eye, I cut off the choker eye off my double braid sling so I can cowhitch or timberhitch it. Makes for better adjustments, and I can get it snugger. It is not that much slower but I have never been a fan of Loopies or whoopies. I have many different lengths and combos for the trees I work on down here with all the redirects I use..
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Swing, You are a good guy and this is not against you, but there are many ways to adjust your sling length and be more versitile with the large eye in place. I'm sorry if I have failed with videos to demonstrate.
Especially with a long X-Rigging ring sling, you have a fast and easy way to keep the ring tight against the tree without having to tie anything.
bixlers length was close, but not able to be perfect, he did good with what he had.
Bixler
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"bixlers length was close, but not able to be perfect, he did good with what he had"
you sound like your mother
you sound like your mother
X man
Get real yourself!
The Xring would not of twisted and lengthened on that aplication because there was no load on the Xring, which is why i asked what the Xring was for,beacause there was no load share on the ring.Im just speaking the obvious.
Do a load test on that particular way of shortening the sling and i will bet my house on it that eye will lengthen because the twist will pull out.
Surely X man, you can see that...???
Great product,the Xring.....I need a new chainsaw lanyard
Get real yourself!
The Xring would not of twisted and lengthened on that aplication because there was no load on the Xring, which is why i asked what the Xring was for,beacause there was no load share on the ring.Im just speaking the obvious.
Do a load test on that particular way of shortening the sling and i will bet my house on it that eye will lengthen because the twist will pull out.
Surely X man, you can see that...???
Great product,the Xring.....I need a new chainsaw lanyard
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I noticed this at work yesterday. I was wondering what it was from. Now I know... thanks Murph. Above the block, below the sling, got it. It wouldn't take long for me to carve out a safe place for the climb line under the block. That way the steel core is above the block, and the climb line can stay below, just a thought. I would be hesitant to put both lines up there in the same spot, no?
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Nice Vid Bixler. Both of your tie in's should not be in the same spot, your right. A bad ride could force the lines over the tip and bad things could happen. One over and one under was how I learned and keep the lower below the pulley or right close to the sling so you don't get your rope smashed with the pulley on the down low.
I noticed this at work yesterday. I was wondering what it was from. Now I know... thanks Murph. Above the block, below the sling, got it. It wouldn't take long for me to carve out a safe place for the climb line under the block. That way the steel core is above the block, and the climb line can stay below, just a thought. I would be hesitant to put both lines up there in the same spot, no?
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Nice Vid Bixler. Both of your tie in's should not be in the same spot, your right. A bad ride could force the lines over the tip and bad things could happen. One over and one under was how I learned and keep the lower below the pulley or right close to the sling so you don't get your rope smashed with the pulley on the down low.
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X man
Get real yourself!
The Xring would not of twisted and lengthened on that aplication because there was no load on the Xring, which is why i asked what the Xring was for,beacause there was no load share on the ring.Im just speaking the obvious.
Do a load test on that particular way of shortening the sling and i will bet my house on it that eye will lengthen because the twist will pull out.
Surely X man, you can see that...???
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Bixler twisted it, using the ring by wrapping from the bottom upward.
When a good load would be pulled on the ring, it would definitely try to untwist itself.
When it would try to untwist, it would try to crawl the sling DOWN the tree; at the same time the angle of the groundperson would try to make the sling go up the tree.
I suspect that yes, on a heavy load, the pulling on the ring would untwist it a bit and the ring would not be as close to the trunk. However, i suspect it would not be as easy to untwist it as you would think, due to the counter action of the angle trying to keep the sling from twisting and walking down the trunk.
he only had two twists, more twists if he had a little more length would not likely all come out.
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Great product,the Xring.....I need a new chainsaw lanyard
[/ QUOTE ] They are called the X-Rigging Rings and I don't think they would work good in that application. But maybe I could sell you the smallest ring we've got and you could pleasure yourself with it in bed at night since you can't get any female action.
X man
Get real yourself!
The Xring would not of twisted and lengthened on that aplication because there was no load on the Xring, which is why i asked what the Xring was for,beacause there was no load share on the ring.Im just speaking the obvious.
Do a load test on that particular way of shortening the sling and i will bet my house on it that eye will lengthen because the twist will pull out.
Surely X man, you can see that...???
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Bixler twisted it, using the ring by wrapping from the bottom upward.
When a good load would be pulled on the ring, it would definitely try to untwist itself.
When it would try to untwist, it would try to crawl the sling DOWN the tree; at the same time the angle of the groundperson would try to make the sling go up the tree.
I suspect that yes, on a heavy load, the pulling on the ring would untwist it a bit and the ring would not be as close to the trunk. However, i suspect it would not be as easy to untwist it as you would think, due to the counter action of the angle trying to keep the sling from twisting and walking down the trunk.
he only had two twists, more twists if he had a little more length would not likely all come out.
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Great product,the Xring.....I need a new chainsaw lanyard
[/ QUOTE ] They are called the X-Rigging Rings and I don't think they would work good in that application. But maybe I could sell you the smallest ring we've got and you could pleasure yourself with it in bed at night since you can't get any female action.
Daniel is spot on with your personal evaluation on an earlier post......Turkey!
Why is it Xman that when ever I ruffle your feathers you retort with a response that is derogortory, and often, with a homo-erotic sexual conotation?
Do you harbor these thoughts and accuse others of doing so because you are not yet out of the closet? It's ok, X,people will probably like you more when are truthfull to yourself and come out of the closet.
I could be mistaken, cause your attitude really comes across as typical small mans syndrome! You got everything but your still small! Ha HA small boy
Grow up X( obviuosly not physically,small boy!!).
You remind me of being back at hi school, i.e teaseing other people....... grow up small boy!!
Why is it Xman that when ever I ruffle your feathers you retort with a response that is derogortory, and often, with a homo-erotic sexual conotation?
Do you harbor these thoughts and accuse others of doing so because you are not yet out of the closet? It's ok, X,people will probably like you more when are truthfull to yourself and come out of the closet.
I could be mistaken, cause your attitude really comes across as typical small mans syndrome! You got everything but your still small! Ha HA small boy
Grow up X( obviuosly not physically,small boy!!).
You remind me of being back at hi school, i.e teaseing other people....... grow up small boy!!
By the way x man, you might wont someone else on sales cause you are quite tacktile and easily loose sales.
Best bet,...distance your self,... far, far away from your product, dont associate your self with the product,and you might be successfull.
Your attidtude sux and your small boy syndrome toughness will never get fans, especially overseas,cause i like your product but you are such a sensitve wanker,due to your small man syndrome, you need some one else to sell your product ie.cause all i see of your product is dog leads
Best bet,...distance your self,... far, far away from your product, dont associate your self with the product,and you might be successfull.
Your attidtude sux and your small boy syndrome toughness will never get fans, especially overseas,cause i like your product but you are such a sensitve wanker,due to your small man syndrome, you need some one else to sell your product ie.cause all i see of your product is dog leads
TC
Participating member
nice vid Bixler, cheers for posting
Bixler
Participating member
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CHOP CHOP, the X Rigging Rings will sell themselves. Even theXman can't mess this one up - ingenious really.
Most climbers/riggers can put them to use more often than a heavier expensive block/sling combo. You can put it in the hands of any 'oldschool' climbers/bucket guys and watch them work it into their system.
X, I was going over some info about the XRR's at:
http://www.xtremearborist.com
Had some q's:
-What type of material is the actual RING made from?
- Regarding my 28 X 20 ring, we measured the diameter and it was 28mm, what part of the ring does the 20 describe?
-We have some ideas on how to use the XRR for crane work. Are there plans of making a ring two or three times the size of the 28 X 20?
The Tri XRR looks perfect for controlled speedline, nice!
Most climbers/riggers can put them to use more often than a heavier expensive block/sling combo. You can put it in the hands of any 'oldschool' climbers/bucket guys and watch them work it into their system.
X, I was going over some info about the XRR's at:
http://www.xtremearborist.com
Had some q's:
-What type of material is the actual RING made from?
- Regarding my 28 X 20 ring, we measured the diameter and it was 28mm, what part of the ring does the 20 describe?
-We have some ideas on how to use the XRR for crane work. Are there plans of making a ring two or three times the size of the 28 X 20?
The Tri XRR looks perfect for controlled speedline, nice!
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Daniel is spot on with your personal evaluation on an earlier post......Turkey!
Why is it Xman that when ever I ruffle your feathers you retort with a response that is derogortory, and often, with a homo-erotic sexual conotation?
Do you harbor these thoughts and accuse others of doing so because you are not yet out of the closet? It's ok, X,people will probably like you more when are truthfull to yourself and come out of the closet.
I could be mistaken, cause your attitude really comes across as typical small mans syndrome! You got everything but your still small! Ha HA small boy
Grow up X( obviuosly not physically,small boy!!).
You remind me of being back at hi school, i.e teaseing other people....... grow up small boy!!
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I don't remember what it was, but I just know that I don't like you (your tree buzz personallity) on the the buzz, in my mind you started it first quite a while ago.
I didn't think I use much homo humor. I have lately maybe because someone I know makes a lot of jokes like that lately. OldDirty makes a lot of those jokes.
I think they are funny at times for the main reason they are so childish, like middle school. Just like Momma jokes.
Plus, if you are up late Friday night drinking while on the buzz, they are even more funny.
I don't have homo issues and no small man issues. I do have a bully tendancy and it comes out at times. For some reason, I was born a bully (I think because i have a brother a year younger than I) and it's a hard thing to fight against. I don't think I do it in person anymore, but with text on the internet it comes out sometimes.
A bully is a very negative thing, especially these days. I try not to do it, but it's honestly very hard to resist; especially when people do stuff to set it off.
I'm glad I'm not a bully in real life, it just comes out in text sometimes.
Daniel is spot on with your personal evaluation on an earlier post......Turkey!
Why is it Xman that when ever I ruffle your feathers you retort with a response that is derogortory, and often, with a homo-erotic sexual conotation?
Do you harbor these thoughts and accuse others of doing so because you are not yet out of the closet? It's ok, X,people will probably like you more when are truthfull to yourself and come out of the closet.
I could be mistaken, cause your attitude really comes across as typical small mans syndrome! You got everything but your still small! Ha HA small boy
Grow up X( obviuosly not physically,small boy!!).
You remind me of being back at hi school, i.e teaseing other people....... grow up small boy!!
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I don't remember what it was, but I just know that I don't like you (your tree buzz personallity) on the the buzz, in my mind you started it first quite a while ago.
I didn't think I use much homo humor. I have lately maybe because someone I know makes a lot of jokes like that lately. OldDirty makes a lot of those jokes.
I think they are funny at times for the main reason they are so childish, like middle school. Just like Momma jokes.
Plus, if you are up late Friday night drinking while on the buzz, they are even more funny.
I don't have homo issues and no small man issues. I do have a bully tendancy and it comes out at times. For some reason, I was born a bully (I think because i have a brother a year younger than I) and it's a hard thing to fight against. I don't think I do it in person anymore, but with text on the internet it comes out sometimes.
A bully is a very negative thing, especially these days. I try not to do it, but it's honestly very hard to resist; especially when people do stuff to set it off.
I'm glad I'm not a bully in real life, it just comes out in text sometimes.
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By the way x man, you might wont someone else on sales cause you are quite tacktile and easily loose sales.
Best bet,...distance your self,... far, far away from your product, dont associate your self with the product,and you might be successfull.
Your attidtude sux and your small boy syndrome toughness will never get fans, especially overseas,cause i like your product but you are such a sensitve wanker,due to your small man syndrome, you need some one else to sell your product ie.cause all i see of your product is dog leads
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You are very correct, I've had the same thoughts.
In the beggining, when I released the X-Rigging Rings, I thought to myself, I've gotta bite my tongue and be nicer to people on treebuzz if I'm the main promotor for a product.
Mark Chisholm and Reg always seem to be so good at public relations with people, even though I suspect they bite their tongue constantly to keep it from talking.
I tried it for a little while and thought, you know what, let the product sell itself, screw that, I'm going to be me for better or for worse.
I'm one of the main people for Xtreme Arborist Supply product promotion and testing, but I'm not the company.
Don't hate the company just because you hate me.
It's funny, most of the people I knock heads with end up becoming friends when I find out they are smart and are like me.
By the way x man, you might wont someone else on sales cause you are quite tacktile and easily loose sales.
Best bet,...distance your self,... far, far away from your product, dont associate your self with the product,and you might be successfull.
Your attidtude sux and your small boy syndrome toughness will never get fans, especially overseas,cause i like your product but you are such a sensitve wanker,due to your small man syndrome, you need some one else to sell your product ie.cause all i see of your product is dog leads
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You are very correct, I've had the same thoughts.
In the beggining, when I released the X-Rigging Rings, I thought to myself, I've gotta bite my tongue and be nicer to people on treebuzz if I'm the main promotor for a product.
Mark Chisholm and Reg always seem to be so good at public relations with people, even though I suspect they bite their tongue constantly to keep it from talking.
I tried it for a little while and thought, you know what, let the product sell itself, screw that, I'm going to be me for better or for worse.
I'm one of the main people for Xtreme Arborist Supply product promotion and testing, but I'm not the company.
Don't hate the company just because you hate me.
It's funny, most of the people I knock heads with end up becoming friends when I find out they are smart and are like me.
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CHOP CHOP
- Regarding my 28 X 20 ring, we measured the diameter and it was 28mm, what part of the ring does the 20 describe?
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"CHOP CHOP", is this Southpark? yes, my humor is Southpark like.
Here are the dimensions to help answer the size questions.
CHOP CHOP
- Regarding my 28 X 20 ring, we measured the diameter and it was 28mm, what part of the ring does the 20 describe?
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"CHOP CHOP", is this Southpark? yes, my humor is Southpark like.
Here are the dimensions to help answer the size questions.
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Frax
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It's always nice to see tree work done with deliberate control instead of wild drama.
Nice use of the X rigging rings in some of the vids up here lately too. I can think of all kinds of ways to use those.
Nice use of the X rigging rings in some of the vids up here lately too. I can think of all kinds of ways to use those.
