Tachyon Question

[TylerHoffman]

I see a couple threads on tachyon and cannot figure out which one to ask these questions on. I still have yet to try a tachyon splice but want some answers before i do so.

1. Can or can't i use samson instructions? (people say to use ne ropes instructions and some say that samson instructions are easier)
2. Does the core have two or three strands?
3. Where should i taper more to make the final bury easier?
4. How may cover strands should i pull and taper?

I know i will have more questions that i cannot think of at the moment.

Thanks in advance!

 

[Worthaug]

1. You can use Samson instructions or NE, same results. NE's show how to deal with the 2nd inner core properly, I usually eliminate it and splice it like a normal double braid. The inner core is there to keep the rope round under load, most likely why the Bone loves Tachyon.
2. 3 I believe
3. Once the fid has been thread through the throat under the cover and out at point R (Samson) I taper the core tail by removing every strand every 5 picks.
4. I usually follow the 5,5,5...

Does NickfromWI have a Tachyon vid?

 

[TylerHoffman]

Thanks! No I meant his bluemoon vid.
I cut some of the rope to expose the core. (The first time I've seen tachyon core) I see the three inner core strands (purple). But with the outer core (braids of 4 strands is what I'm seeing), is there anything special to do with that during the splice to make the final bury easier?

 

[monkeylove]

Refer to the other thread and try buying him 2 beers.

 

[TylerHoffman]

I'll do it myself and give myself the brews

 

[TylerHoffman]

It'll probly be a couple beers cause I'm gonna try practicing on used tachyon first before the new stuff

 

[monkeylove]

Better head straight for the Bourbon.

 

[TylerHoffman]

good idea. I will post photos tomorrow

 

[Simpleiowaguy]

Used tachyon is a beast to splice. I cut out the inner core also and splice like a normal 24 strand.

 

[TylerHoffman]

please tell me where to cut the inner core those of u who remove it! Im gonna try with the inner core left in and see how it goes.

 

[TylerHoffman]

That's all she'll go. Not really sure what I did wrong

 

[evo]

looks like the only thing you did wrong was trying to splice used tachyon... You can try pulling it out and lubing it. Burying with a MA, and some whacks with a hammer handle mallet or the like. I do think your dreaming though. I did once splice a hank a little newer than what yours looks like, and swore that I would never attempt it again (it took nearly half a day).

 

[TylerHoffman]

looks like the only thing you did wrong was trying to splice used tachyon... You can try pulling it out and lubing it. Burying with a MA, and some whacks with a hammer handle mallet or the like. I do think your dreaming though. I did once splice a hank a little newer than what yours looks like, and swore that I would never attempt it again (it took nearly half a day).

Well, all i can say is ML got me drunk and i m never doing that again... Note to self, don't do that. It felt like i was doing something wrong the whole time. I used a come-a-long between two cars after i ripped my anchor point out of my basement wall (my new splicing bench lasted 3/4's of a splice, haha.

 

[monkeylove]

It was a good attempt Tyler. I did some used Vortex last night and had only slightly better results. I still have about a little bit of crossover also there (About half as much as yours). I had 1,000lbs to get it there so I am using it.

 

[RajElectric]

Never done it myself, but I did read washing the rope first helps relax the rope somewhat. I also read that Abraham Lincoln said don't always believe what you read on the internet.

 

[tuttle]

You could easy bury that by pulling a 1ft of core out the other end, you may fret at the prospect of milking a 100ft of rope, but its a easy bury then.

 

[TylerHoffman]

I cannot figure out this step. The core does not want to bury all the way to D. The 3 times I tried today, I got about an inch and a half away from D. The directions do not say how to taper the carefree this step. Any ideas on what the best way it to taper? Somehow i got it with used rope but can't with new rope? I want to get it this way but I'm about to remove the 3 strands and try the Samson instructions.

 

[evo]

Is it possible that you picked a strand with your fid? That will stop a splice dead in it's tracks. This is where I would check first, look all over and see if you can find any distortion on the cover.

 

[TylerHoffman]

It was snagged on a core strand. Good call! Did one more attempt. I got this far by massaging/malloting/pulling. So hopefully the come-a-long will be able to finish it tomorrow. ML, how much does ur EZ-pull pull?

 

[TylerHoffman]

For the overlap bury, I tapered about a foot of the core a good bit and it went through like a dream. If it doesn't go through easy, take it out an taper more!