Splicing by Tuttle

[jmcscrap]

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I drop a huge tree in a fast timescale, climb it in minutes and keep the groundies switched on etc etc.....

My speeed compared to local employees is about 200% faster and more organised.

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Not wanting to hog-pile, but this is starting to sound like a "UK based" Daniel thread.......

Your stuff looks good, clean work - but that's not the only thing people want. Odds are the splices hold, but how do we know without some sort of recorded test data? That has been the issue the whole time.

 

[tuttle]

well fliippy duippy dopp feevrtonre wantzz a goo iaat mee

hu mour and commaddy is a good buzzzzzz thoough

 

[Tr33Climb3r]

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I rip trees right off the stump and grind them with my teeth.

This thread missed it's original mark by miles.

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Oh yea well I can prune a tree with an arm and a leg tied back in less time than most can without being tied.

 

[GeorgeR]

Sometimes I just look at a tree and it falls over. Not sure how it works yet, I'll get back to you when I know more.

 

[tuttle]

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Sometimes I just look at a tree and it falls over. Not sure how it works yet, I'll get back to you when I know more.

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windy miller, hiding in the pressure bars

 

[CutHighnLetFly]

tuttle i like your mate's pants. he keeps em tight like your splices, ay?
that videos wild, THAT is how you should prove your splices hold if you ask me.

 

[Bixler]

I'd put my life on that fancy splice by Tuttle, that's for sure.

 

[Merle Nelson]

Has everyone seen that TreeStuff has a ‘break test service’ available? $35 gets you an emailed graph of the break and a picture.

 

[TC]

tuttle, there's no such rope as Samson XTC.

Yale XTC yes, Samson - no.

Pro climbers might spot the mistake and question your credibility and in turn question the splices.

It's all about being professional.

 

[tuttle]

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tuttle, there's no such rope as Samson XTC.

Yale XTC yes, Samson - no.

Pro climbers might spot the mistake and question your credibility and in turn question the splices.

It's all about being professional.

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I forgot to put a comma in between the two.

 

[boreality]

What is the point of a shorter bury? Production time or a more workable piece of rope that is more flexible and somehow gives better performance? If it's production over performance, that could cause a problem. It's one of those things where performance should be the top concern and exceed manufacturer's standards.

 

[RopeShield]

I dunno but looks like a fair balance between the two and
better than a knots 30 to 40% strength loss.

 

[tuttle]

To blue line, that is full cover and core with no taper, to the yellow line the core is tapered at 45degrees, the cover ends at the red line.

How deep does it really need to go? and remember its Full core and cover from throat for 2"+

 

[MooseHead]

Is there any reason you wouldn't just send some of your work off to be tested? If you want ill use your specs and send it off myself. You might seriously be on to something here but most people will be skeptical without proof.

Would I climb on it? Simple answer is yes but this is bc I understand the process and know what to look for.

I have some material that I've been using to splice I2I's out of for about 3 years now and i can honestly say there are maybe 2 or 3 that are climbed on that are not in my gear bag. It works better than any other hitch cord I've used. Now I have a handful of retired splices that will be shipped off along with some new ones to see what kind of strength I'm getting out of it. My old supervisor allowed me to use them on the job but nobody else could bc they wouldn't know what to look for if the splice started to slip of fail.

 

[tuttle]

I been doing this, climbing, tree work, etc etc, for ages....I have personally tested them, and tested them without whipping, I have made hundreds, and other stuff, never had a fail.

I'm happy to post out to someone who has a proper rig, and can give me full test results.

 

[MooseHead]

https://www.treestuff.com/store/catalog.asp?item=3660

This is where ill be sending my stuff from now on. Results will be documented and emailed to you.

Again Tuttle I'm not dogging and I hope your technique breaks out where it needs to be. Good luck with it and keep us posted on how it goes!!

 

[tuttle]

Nice one Moosehead, i'll be posting them out soon as...

 

[Tree Access]

Any news here Tuttle?

 

[tuttle]

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Any news here Tuttle?

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I am working with a university to test my splices, the equipment is first class.

Should have results with a 6weeks.

 

[Brion]

Oh dear,
Mr. Tuttle, it is not news that splices with short buries can resist pull-out. Bury lengths weren't settled on because they were the minimum to prevent pull-out. They were settled on because they prevented any likely possibility of pull-out, regardless of cycling loads, shock loads, static loads, or any combination of those in the real world. Static destruction tests are just one indicator of splice quality.
Short buries have always been the resort of lazy splicers; short buries are easier to tuck, and make the rope easier to run home. they make the splicer look good. I am happy to hear that, as far as you know, you haven't killed anyone yet, but I would like to mention that I have twice, so far, acted as a consultant in lawsuits where short buries caused gear failures, once with a fatality involved.
Even if that weren't the case, do you really believe that you automatically know better than generations of ropemakers and riggers? You are part of a community of experience. Please participate in it, for your benefit, and your clients'.
Fair leads,
BrionToss