Splicing by Tuttle

Isn't the stitching there to hold the splice together in no/light/vibratory loads. Also it acts as a indicator if the splice is slipping, due to it puckering or tightening and puckering the rope. Why on earth would you want to cover it up with something black. I can see using clear, and adding a info slip but not covering it all up...

This is the reason why I started splicing my own ropes, or buying from reputable sources.. I would rather use a knot, than trust a splicing technique that hasn't been tested to destruction.

Tuttle, for most of your posts I see you spotlighting your own commercial splicing business, very little post involving climbing, or tree care. You are answering very pointed blunt questions like a cheap politician. What are the breaking strength of your splices? How can you come up with a WILL with out it? Have your short cuts been approved by any body, manufacture, industry leaders other than your self? I don't really care about what the boaters do with their yachts. They have some cool stuff, and ideas, but tree WORK is different..
 
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This is my feedback from international selling of prusiks etc..

http://feedback.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....tab=AllFeedback

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Hmmmm.. ebay feedback. Thats enough for me to trust my life on it, that ebay feedback over-rules ANSI if you ask me.
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I want to jump on the bandwagon here to express my concern. Where I work, whenever we test a new splice or even a splice we've done millions of times for use on a new rope, we break test the splice endlessly and at great cost to ensure that our work breaks as far above the ANSI requirements as possible. We also do random batch testing to make sure that every product that goes out is as safe as possible. I still worry. It's just the nature of working with life safety.

If you're not even breaking ANY of your work to destruction, I'm seriously worried that your first negative review will be from someones grieving widow. I understand that you may not have the means to break test all of your work, or to cover the cost of doing so at a larger scale, but the fact that it inconveniences you should not justify putting your paying customers life in danger. I get that YOU find it safe, but at least a disclaimer on the website saying that your work isn't tested or approved by manufacturers would be something.
 
The stitching is only lock stitches to prevent the cover from moving slightly which in turn would close the eye.

My splices are pulled when making at 400kgs, there is no-way on earth they would budge under low loads, I cover them to protect the stitches from dirt and water, the stitches are not needed in light of the splice...they are NOT the holding factor, in either way...fully tested!

The UK inspectors love my gear, and pass them for the buyers.

Scaredy cats about rope splices, either don't have a clue or just are blind to what is going on.
 
All I can say is WOW. When you have other pro splicers that express concern and you say we are "scaredy cats" is mind blowing. Obviously we are not to your professional standards which makes me sad bc I also have A LOT of happy customers that trust their life with my work but hey what do I know I've never owned a kite company.
 
Gee I guess I just don't know what I'm talking about.. Why on earth is this recommended (not always needed) by the manufactures?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ki9IHrU48

Where is your evidence? If you have done the research, show us, if not stop talking like an expert and in absolutes.

Where are the answers to the important questions?

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You are answering very pointed blunt questions like a cheap politician. What are the breaking strength of your splices? How can you come up with a WILL with out it? Have your short cuts been approved by any body, manufacture, industry leaders other than your self?

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The UK inspectors love my gear, and pass them for the buyers.

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The reason for this thread was to help people and offer tricks and tips.....

Now we are lost in red tape and lack of good humour...I can only hope that some asks an actual question on how achieve the perfect splice.
 
Forgive me for thinking this, but one of my requisites for a 'perfect' splice is replicate-able breaking results as close to the listed MBS as possible.
Tuttle, nobody is getting lost in red tape.You do not have facts behind your splices. this is where people are getting stuck. No sane person is going to use splicing instructions by someone who has not done any testing on their product. And no, testimonials do not count as testing.
read this thread for what we are looking for. you can clearly see how Moray explains his case using numbers and repeatable processes to justify his 'experimental' splices.
http://www.treebuzz.com/forum/showflat.p...true#Post246725
 
Tuttle,

If you want a question about the perfect splice offer up a definition of what it is.

I can tie a perfect knot with 100% confidence in it's performance. If I can't do the same with a splice I don't use it.

Clifford Ashley, do you know who he is, said something to the effect:

A knot is either tied right or disastorously wrong.

Without documentation or some sort of proof how would anyone know which your splice is?
 
Tuttle,

I'm all for tip's, tricks, and short cuts to make anything easier or better. However my concern is that you are presenting yourself as a world renown splicer, but you cannot come up with any facts that your splice shortcuts are strong, or if the manufacture will have your back. It's very dangerous to publicly give instruction on such a drastic alteration of a manufacture's recommendation by a full third!

The only testing I've hear you mention is that you pre-load your splices to a little over 800lbs... That's not much, and barley over SWL for life support in the states.... I'm sure you know that the SWL is there can quickly be exceeded in a accidental situation... A 200lbs climber slipping and taking a 3' fall can generate forces to what you test to... Make a video of your splices being tested to destruction, and I won't criticize your methods in this way. Drop a 500lb log 6 feet on your splice, I for one want to see if the rope will break, or if your splice fails.
 
I have done all that on personal falls, they won't break.

I have done countless tests on various ropes.

Over the next few weeks I'll offer some humorous, but all the same serious testing to put all fears at bay.

Video and photographic evidence.
 
Let me see if I can take all this and "splice" it together simply - break test the splice on a device that gives the breaking point NUMBER - repeat several times to see if the splice breaks again at the same point. Document these NUMBERS and provide them.

Videos and photos are great - but NUMBERS don't lie.
 
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I'm highly doubting he is a pro climber.

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I'm UK based, with CS qualifications, 39, 38, 32, 31, 30.

I have been a climber for over 30yrs, abseiling off allsorts of things, so does that make me a pro?

And another thing.....that comment is in the third person and not directed at me, so your chasing your club by the looks.

These lads are my mates, and we done these antics 25yrs ago...wonder how many of you have done this....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpKDmds44y4
 
That comment is in the first person- he doubts you are a pro-climber, expressed in the first person signifying "I'm." His tenses are slightly unorthodox which may be the cause of the confusion.

Cleaned up, the quote is "I highly doubt he is a pro-climber." About as clean cut an example of first person as you can find. Not that it really matters, but grammar is interesting I suppose.

For the record, that video pretty much just solidifies my concerns regarding your views towards safety. Not sure what you were hoping to accomplish with it exactly?
 
I've been riding a bike since I was 5, cool I guess I'm a pro. Your video is nothing more than some guys effing off, I'm not sure what your trying to prove. Are you an Arborist? What is your motivation for posting on this site? It seems like you are using this site to fluff your feathers and sell stuff.
 
I am an Arborist, so ask me a question and the answer is there.

I have taught many people how to use ropes, pullies, systems and other methods that are not taught to people by others because of a limited education and/or experience.

I drop a huge tree in a fast timescale, climb it in minutes and keep the groundies switched on etc etc.....

My speeed compared to local employees is about 200% faster and more organised.
 
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