Show off them splices

[Mike Islander]

My first successful splice. This one is just some dock line for the boat. I seriously doubted the part where the sheath goes into the core would ever bury into the line, but after cranking on it and pulling my table across the warehouse, damn if it didn't seat! Have to say it is a really satisfying feeling of accomplishment. I know I have a long way to go to come anywhere close to the beautiful splices I have seen here, but that is what makes this thread such a great resource. Something to always strive toward.

The rope was purchased on eBay years ago and was listed as 1/2" Double Braided Multifilament Polypropylene (MFP) Dock Line. I don't know how to tell how many strands it has, or much else for that matter.

 

[dmonn]

My first successful splice. This one is just some dock line for the boat. I seriously doubted the part where the sheath goes into the core would ever bury into the line, but after cranking on it and pulling my table across the warehouse, damn if it didn't seat! Have to say it is a really satisfying feeling of accomplishment. I know I have a long way to go to come anywhere close to the beautiful splices I have seen here, but that is what makes this thread such a great resource. Something to always strive toward.

The rope was purchased on eBay years ago and was listed as 1/2" Double Braided Multifilament Polypropylene (MFP) Dock Line. I don't know how to tell how many strands it has, or much else for that matter.
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Looks way better than my first splice. If remember correctly, the Speedy Stitcher comes with needles that have a triangular cross section where the edges are sharp. I could be wrong about that, but if I'm right those edges tend to cut fibers when you push the needle through. You can get a round point needle to replace the triangular ones, but you need to grind down the shank to get it into the Speedy Stitcher. Am I correct in this?

 

[Mike Islander]

Looks way better than my first splice. If remember correctly, the Speedy Stitcher comes with needles that have a triangular cross section (where the edges are sharp. I could be wrong about that, but if I'm right those edges tend to cut fibers when you push the needle through. You can get a round point needle to replace the triangular ones, but you need to grind down the shank to get it into the Speedy Stitcher. Am I correct in this?

Thanks for the heads up. The body is smooth, but you are right; the very tip is a triangular wedge (chisel point?). Is even that too much? I have some large needles somewhere. I can easily smooth the current needle on my belt sharpener and polish it up like glass (with a rounded point).

 

[Njdelaney]

Looks way better than my first splice. If remember correctly, the Speedy Stitcher comes with needles that have a triangular cross section where the edges are sharp. I could be wrong about that, but if I'm right those edges tend to cut fibers when you push the needle through. You can get a round point needle to replace the triangular ones, but you need to grind down the shank to get it into the Speedy Stitcher. Am I correct in this?

You're correct. All the info can be found in one of @moss threads titled "Documenting my hand-sewn eye process. "

 

[Brocky]

Ball tipped is the term used. Being polypropylene makes it harder to splice than nylon and polyester, it is almost like a weak Velcro, just doesn’t want to slid easily. Nice job, but is that a mark about an inch from the throat?

 

[Mike Islander]

Ball tipped is the term used. Being polypropylene makes it harden to splice than nylon and polyester, it is almost like a weak Velcro, just doesn’t want to slid easily. Nice job, but is that a mark about an inch from the throat?

Yes, that is probably my original eye mark. This is just a practice splice, the first I was ever able to get to actually work. Thank goodness this is harder to splice than polyester. I almost gave up after several tries and two different very sticky cheap boat ropes.

 

[dp75]

Yale safari 48 kernmantle class II Tuck splice e/ Samson II whipping + cinching sewn eye setup

Credit Brooky&Moss

 

[Mike Islander]

Yale safari 48 kernmantle class II Tuck splice e/ Samson II whipping + cinching sewn eye setup

Credit Brooky&Moss

That's a cool splice. On a double eye, how much strength do you need between the two eyes? I'm thinking the sewing could fail between eyes but not drop you to the ground, just rattle your two carabiners, or whatever, together before you recover.

 

[dp75]

That's a cool splice. On a double eye, how much strength do you need between the two eyes? I'm thinking the sewing could fail between eyes but not drop you to the ground, just rattle your two carabiners, or whatever, together before you recover.

The eye splice is 5"ish. Sewing is tested with a 400lbs static load for 10'. Climbing on that cinching setup style for an year now with a completed sewn eye, no troubles.
0,9mil 3strands poly thread rated@ 60lbs/Mt.

 

[Mike Islander]

Whipping line size and material: Reading the Samson whipping instructions, this jumped out at me:

"The twine used should be approximately twice the diameter of the strands in the rope."

I see that we don't do that here. It looks like we use much smaller diameter twine. At least that's what my rookie eye is seeing. Again, first year climber (not yet a year actually), so I apologize for my ignorance. Why are the splices posted here using much smaller twine?

They also recommend braided nylon twine, with polyester as an option. Poly is far less effected by sunlight, is hydrophobic, almost as strong, and doesn't dramatically stretch when wet. Shouldn't poly be first choice?

Next question. Samson shows two whipping methods plus a lashing method in their book. Is choice based on personal preference, or is this rope and splice-type dependent?

 

[dp75]

"The twine used should be approximately twice the diameter of the strands in the rope."

It should be twice the diameter of a single strand if you have a double carrier sheath.
Lay down your whipping twine on the rope and check if the diameter is as wide as a single/double strand.

"They also recommend braided nylon twine, with polyester as an option*

Ain't recommend, is preferred. Braided is better definitely.

As of the whipping method, I'd been taught method 1 for class one ropes , method 2 for class 2 with jacket.

My two penny worth!

 

[flyingmosstreen]

This is my first splice. It's a weird one on teufelberger fly... They have a newer technique they use but haven't released the instructions yet? I could be wrong. I'll do a few more then maybe get them tested. I might also want a different whip, but for a first go I'd say OK!

Comments/critiques encouraged!

-JP

 

[flyingmosstreen]

My second attempt...

 

[CutHighnLetFly]

29" cambium saver. Shortest one I've ever made.

 

[Mike Islander]

29" cambium saver. Shortest one I've ever made.

Really purdy!

 

[Quintanana]

29" cambium saver. Shortest one I've ever made.

Did you shorten up the measurements?

 

[dmonn]

29" cambium saver. Shortest one I've ever made.

Looks great. What info did you put on the tag?

 

[CutHighnLetFly]

Did you shorten up the measurements?

No I pulled desperately to get enough cover taper but I'll never go that short again. I meant to be 3+" longer but didn't account for the length lost due to getting wider at the splice throats

 

[Quintanana]

No I pulled desperately to get enough cover taper but I'll never go that short again. I meant to be 3+" longer but didn't account for the length lost due to getting wider at the splice throats

Damn! Desperately might be an understatement. Shortest I’ve made is 5’ and that is the shortest I’d comfortably go.

 

[CutHighnLetFly]

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Damn! Desperately might be an understatement. Shortest I’ve made is 5’ and that is the shortest I’d comfortably go.

Made one that was 32" and that was a but easier to finish