Sequoia SRT

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In the saddle thread that is going right now It was stated that the sequoia could never be used for fall arrest. The petzel website is saying something different.

http://petzl.com/en/pro/verticality/harnesses/work-positioning-and-fall-arrest-harnesses/top

I wasnt specific in my post that I got the SRT. Do any of you use this saddle for fall arrest aps? Besides weight distribution from your climbing line onto the shoulders what other applications can the front attachment point on the chest harness be used for? I sure someone out there has come up with some cool ideas!!
 
Hmmmm Interesting. I have the TOP, but was always led to believe that ALL fall arrest attachments had to be in the BACK between the shoulder blades!

Perhaps the Petzl statement is a European thing!
 
I am ALMOST certain, that in all jurisdictions in Canada require all fall arrest systems to be PERMANENTLY attached to the leg straps and/or the waist belt! That is a certainty in the Province of SK.
 
I'm 100% sure that it is not fall arrest. If you look at what the back of the harness is clipped into, on the saddle. It is mealy a small plastic piece. I wouldn't trust it at all.
Petzl has a typo on that one.

However the the front is fine. Not for fall arrest, but it will support a croll or similar equipment. maybe that is what petzl is referring to.
 
The WEIRD thing with the TOP is that the front ring is up-side down for anything but Overhead connection! This is where I attach a small caribiner to keep my Unicender verticle!

There is a video on the Petzl link that staes "Fall Arrest". The two guy that would know, Tom D in N. America, and Mark B in Europe, may be able to assist on this issue!
 
I e-mailed Petzl and awaiting reply. I have never intended to use the saddle for fall arrest aps. Just trying to understand the full capacity of the gear I purchase. Moved over from the Cougar and am so far very pleased.
 
I talked with the petzl rep before I bought my Sequoia. One of the reasons I didnt buy the SRT at the time was because of what he told me. That was the sequoia srt attatchment points were not stitched with the same thread or in the same way as the navaho sit, thus making the navaho sit rated for fall arrest, with the top suspenders, and the sequoia srt not rated.
 
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The rear attachment on the harness is aluminum, sewn in with 3/4 inch webbing.

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Is this removable? Meaning can the harness come off in any way? Mine is plastic not aluminum. However mine is 2 years old. Maybe the new ones are fall arrest!!! Someone needs to call petzl.

I'm looking into this!!
 
Hello together,

i can confirm that PETZL has approved the Sequoia SRT together with the Top Croll chest harness as a full-body harness, based on a type examination to the european standard EN 361.

In the european standard it is possible to have only a fall- arrest Chest D-Ring(sternal), so the Sequoia SRT with Top Croll has no D-Ring on the back(Ventral), and it is also legal that the chest harness is not permanently attached to the sit harness.

From my point of view, is a nice combination, not only for tree work, also for rope access, i have used this configuration off- label since i got a sequoia for testing(after discussing this issue with PETZL...), so i am happy that it is approved now.

Unfortunately i don't know what is about ANSI, before you use it be aware of the relevant legislation in your country, so a good plan would be to talk to PETZL...

Take care & many greetings from Berlin,

Knut
 
The official word from Petzl:Guess they weren't fibbin after all. Sorry Petzl!!
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Hi Paul,
Thanks for your question. The Top chest harness and Sequoia SRT combination is rated as a fall arrest harness under EN 361 and NFPA 1983 Class III. However, it does not meet ANSI Z359 or CSA Z259 fall arrest requirements primarily due to the fact that the chest harness is not permanently attached to the saddle, and there is no dorsal attachment point. Consequently, your decision to use this harness configuration as part of a fall arrest system should be determined by the laws governing your jobsite and a detailed hazard assessment specific to that job.

I hope this clarifies things a bit, but please feel free to contact me with any further questions you may have. Have a great day Paul, and be safe out there.

Best Regards,
Rick Vance
technical information manager
Petzl America
rvance@petzl.com
www.petzl.com
 
So what does this mean? We in the United States should not use this as fall arrest, correct? I wouldn't want my fall to be arrested form a front attachment like that. Seams as though the body would bend backwards, and that doesn't seam normal. With the rear attachment, you would tend to flop over.
 
It's funny because when this saddle came out 2 or three years ago i questioned petzl about the lack of a rear attachment ring on the harness. I wanted them to custom make me a harness with a rear dorsal ring for fall arrest. I was looking for a good all around saddle that i could use in the bucket, and also climb with, without having to switch a bunch of things around.
They said no way, that the saddle was not fall arrest rated. I personally think that the petzl srt with the top harness that had a rear dorsal attachment and was fall arrest rated would be awesome. Plus when they make the new one with the seat, that IMO, would be a great all round, lightweight, comfortable saddle.
 
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