I just Googled "nosak raw" and all the links warn that "This site will harm your computer". Even the local Tulsa forum from a year ago that had a bunch of crap about the guy. Unfortunately at this point he will probably just slink off rather that get some good training and accurate information.
saw for hire tv show?
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jim454
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there's always the roofing thing to fall back on
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Again. We need someone at the top. And I'm not brown nosing either when I say this... But, I think Mark C. should be the guy to watch and learn from. So, in my comment to Discovery Channel I, once again, emphasized covering Mark C.
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Please just let it go. Lets not have any show. Let them film the loggers and leave this work alone.
Again. We need someone at the top. And I'm not brown nosing either when I say this... But, I think Mark C. should be the guy to watch and learn from. So, in my comment to Discovery Channel I, once again, emphasized covering Mark C.
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Please just let it go. Lets not have any show. Let them film the loggers and leave this work alone.
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I don't think I could be entertaining enough. I hardly ever yell!
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You know why I think that we shouldnt have a show at all about any tree service? Because there is always to pick on and bitch about!!!
Treebuzzer xyz"Have you seen that show about M&D Tree Experts? Those guys are a bunch of idiots. The other day one guy was on a bucket trucks headache rack and he wasnt tied into anything!!!!" Treebuzzer abc"Yeah I know and the worst part is that I spotted someone wearing chaps that looked old and degraded!!!"
It seems dumb, but it would literally get that ridiculous.
Derrick Hulsey
Treebuzzer xyz"Have you seen that show about M&D Tree Experts? Those guys are a bunch of idiots. The other day one guy was on a bucket trucks headache rack and he wasnt tied into anything!!!!" Treebuzzer abc"Yeah I know and the worst part is that I spotted someone wearing chaps that looked old and degraded!!!"
It seems dumb, but it would literally get that ridiculous.
Derrick Hulsey
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Yeah, I'd have to agree as well. There are certain things that I do that I know the most safety conscience wouldn't agree with, not to say I'm not safe, heck my safety has improved leaps and bounds since joining the buzz, but I don't tie in when I walk on a roof or my bucket.
No one show will ever please all of the masses. I do think that a show would be kinda nice to show all of our "customers" what we deal with day in and day out. Usually they come home and the job is complete and that's that. It would be nice to have something show the difference between us and "two a holes and a chainsaw tree service"
No one show will ever please all of the masses. I do think that a show would be kinda nice to show all of our "customers" what we deal with day in and day out. Usually they come home and the job is complete and that's that. It would be nice to have something show the difference between us and "two a holes and a chainsaw tree service"
Gerald_Beranek
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Crash and Burn. Nosak took to being the Devils advocate.
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We,too, are outraged by this Nosak guy and his cheap-thrill of a show. Below is what I sent to Discovery/TLC about it. We are finalizing a project that promotes companies and arborists who adhere to strict ANSI standards. A promo will be up soon on our website: www.arborart.net. We'd love to hear from all of you about it. In the meantime, stay safe!
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Dean, I remember you from my years in Nashville, solid company. Are you doing any Plant Health Care, that market is dying for someone to get it done. Will your show focus on your company alone or will any other local tree services be featured. There are some tree services in that market that I am all to familiar with who remind me so much of Nosak. Good luck.
As for a comment Hollenrich made about injury stats, are you saying that if someone is involved in an accident they should be excluded in the process of making the profession safer? I was a little unclear about your comment. I was involved in a fairly serious accident last fall, as was Whiz, I feel that my sense of safety has increased exponentially by reflection of the accident and more productive, efficient planning and execution. And Whiz is someone I really look up to in our profession.
IMO industry groups can give our comments a nice amount of bang for the buck on an issue like this when it comes to talking to the suits, ISA and TCIA of coarse can,t "do" anything to them, but they can add legetimacy to the letters individuals write. I readily admit watching the guys video on the buzz, it's epic. I would personally like to interview Nosak and the Discovery Channel and find out how this show came to be on tv and what they were trying to acheive, if it was more than ratings that is.
I do hope that Nosak will seek out training if we don't find him first. Does anyone have contact info for him?
We,too, are outraged by this Nosak guy and his cheap-thrill of a show. Below is what I sent to Discovery/TLC about it. We are finalizing a project that promotes companies and arborists who adhere to strict ANSI standards. A promo will be up soon on our website: www.arborart.net. We'd love to hear from all of you about it. In the meantime, stay safe!
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Dean, I remember you from my years in Nashville, solid company. Are you doing any Plant Health Care, that market is dying for someone to get it done. Will your show focus on your company alone or will any other local tree services be featured. There are some tree services in that market that I am all to familiar with who remind me so much of Nosak. Good luck.
As for a comment Hollenrich made about injury stats, are you saying that if someone is involved in an accident they should be excluded in the process of making the profession safer? I was a little unclear about your comment. I was involved in a fairly serious accident last fall, as was Whiz, I feel that my sense of safety has increased exponentially by reflection of the accident and more productive, efficient planning and execution. And Whiz is someone I really look up to in our profession.
IMO industry groups can give our comments a nice amount of bang for the buck on an issue like this when it comes to talking to the suits, ISA and TCIA of coarse can,t "do" anything to them, but they can add legetimacy to the letters individuals write. I readily admit watching the guys video on the buzz, it's epic. I would personally like to interview Nosak and the Discovery Channel and find out how this show came to be on tv and what they were trying to acheive, if it was more than ratings that is.
I do hope that Nosak will seek out training if we don't find him first. Does anyone have contact info for him?
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upset arborist may not carry as much weight
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I was going to stay away from this thread as I prob should.
But!!!
Can I see a show of hands from the letter writers who have been hurt, or have workers that have missed work from just this year from injury. I seen the silly stuff that Nosack does, like the staged tree drop on the car. Yet I've failed to see any of his guys get hurt. Don't seem right to point fingers at someone if you've been the cuase of injury statistics for the industry.
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Quotes I was referring to.
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upset arborist may not carry as much weight
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I was going to stay away from this thread as I prob should.
But!!!
Can I see a show of hands from the letter writers who have been hurt, or have workers that have missed work from just this year from injury. I seen the silly stuff that Nosack does, like the staged tree drop on the car. Yet I've failed to see any of his guys get hurt. Don't seem right to point fingers at someone if you've been the cuase of injury statistics for the industry.
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Quotes I was referring to.
Roger_Barnett
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pancake, all his contact info is at their website, www.nosakraw.com
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- New England (NH)
Thanks. I will look him up.
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Just sent him an E mail. We'll see where it goes.
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"we protect you from the worlds deadliest vegetation, trees"
oh man this guy sucks bad, thats the first time i was on the website and couldnt believe what i saw. especially if you read the bios.
he does have an interesting sales pitch though, not many folks can offer you television converage if you have them do your tree work, well, except for being on the news, which is never a good thing
oh man this guy sucks bad, thats the first time i was on the website and couldnt believe what i saw. especially if you read the bios.
he does have an interesting sales pitch though, not many folks can offer you television converage if you have them do your tree work, well, except for being on the news, which is never a good thing
I'm always on the news with emergency work. They always seem to find us, Good Exposure. I did avoid some bad coverage one time when doing a cat rescue from someone who works for NBC 10. They where waitng for a specific time to go live and I just wanted to get this cat down. So I went ahead and tried to come down on top of the cat so it could't go up further. Damn thing decided it rather jump. I think it tried to jump to an adjacent tree but came up way short. Poor thing fell over fifty feet, give him credit though he landed on all four and ran off. That sure would have been embarrasing it they had that live! They got the cat before the end of the broadcast and the cat was fine. So it all worked out.
allmark
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I think a better representation would be a short series covering Arborculture as a career. Several episodes could cover ISA, TCIA and such where they could demonstrate proper practices and educate the public what to look for when hiring a company. Then maybey follow up with coverage of several professional companies instead of just one. Even cover the ITCC. I dont see a need to spotlight one company. There should also be something in the contract to cover editting so if there was something improper(we all make mistakes) it would not be aired. I think it could cover the USA and other countries also.
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When I was working the ice storm in Tulsa this time last year I called Nosak about his show. I hadn't seen an episode but had heard about it. He agreed to meet with me to discuss a few things and I talked about the importance of our industrys image and standards. He countered that he wasn't in the biz of improving our image and that his show was strictly entertainment. Nice enough guy. Anyway I asked if he's like a quick lookover over of his company's safety standards. He asked if I'd like to be on the show but I think he'd try to work me into the drama or "kick the safety guy off his site" or something. I wasn't interested. I can't believe the show exploded into all this. Good Gawd.
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Don't seem right to point fingers at someone if you've been the cuase of injury statistics for the industry.
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Here I'll help you explain it to him. If you have a black mark on your record, well then your credability is pretty much a wash. If a guy has 12 points and 2 DUI on his drivers license then his credability to claim to be a safty instructor for driving is shot no? What gives a man like this the right to point fingers at other drivers and say they are bad drivers. If you are a tractor trailer driver, get a DUI, just one, 1 beer in less than a hour, then you wont be working for anybody for 5-7 years till that is gone from your driving record. What if this industry worked the same? It was accident, you really got pulled over for not having seat belt on, in your personal car.
Lets go one farther. How about the companies that do everything by the book but yet have injuries, heck even deaths? We all know they are out there. Should they be able to point a finger at someone? They can but their words carry little weight. I sure that maybe a couple, even wrote letters? Would you take advise from a rigging instructor that is known for smashing in a roof? I wouldn't, not even if he said this is what I learned from my mistakes.
Should they be excluded from making the industry safer? No, by no means they have their fame for life. Other instructors will use them as examples of how not to do it. Should Nosack now have the spot light to go around and instruct companies on how to do work? He's learned from his mistakes right? Now he can help improve cuase he knows frist hand whats wrong. Everyone here has bashed this guy, killed his reputation, and slandered his name. Funny I recall getting backlash here for saying something about unethical work practices being done. No?
So as I said if you are part of the problem, then maybe you should not point fingers at others. Cause to some your words have no weight.
Don't seem right to point fingers at someone if you've been the cuase of injury statistics for the industry.
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Here I'll help you explain it to him. If you have a black mark on your record, well then your credability is pretty much a wash. If a guy has 12 points and 2 DUI on his drivers license then his credability to claim to be a safty instructor for driving is shot no? What gives a man like this the right to point fingers at other drivers and say they are bad drivers. If you are a tractor trailer driver, get a DUI, just one, 1 beer in less than a hour, then you wont be working for anybody for 5-7 years till that is gone from your driving record. What if this industry worked the same? It was accident, you really got pulled over for not having seat belt on, in your personal car.
Lets go one farther. How about the companies that do everything by the book but yet have injuries, heck even deaths? We all know they are out there. Should they be able to point a finger at someone? They can but their words carry little weight. I sure that maybe a couple, even wrote letters? Would you take advise from a rigging instructor that is known for smashing in a roof? I wouldn't, not even if he said this is what I learned from my mistakes.
Should they be excluded from making the industry safer? No, by no means they have their fame for life. Other instructors will use them as examples of how not to do it. Should Nosack now have the spot light to go around and instruct companies on how to do work? He's learned from his mistakes right? Now he can help improve cuase he knows frist hand whats wrong. Everyone here has bashed this guy, killed his reputation, and slandered his name. Funny I recall getting backlash here for saying something about unethical work practices being done. No?
So as I said if you are part of the problem, then maybe you should not point fingers at others. Cause to some your words have no weight.
Keith, thanks for the compliment. Yes, we are offering PHC now as well.
The show will show the Danger element as well as the day to day tasks of running a pro tree care company. Yes, we will feature many tree pros along the way.....we want to be an advocate ...not a show off cocky bunch of idiots. I have alot of respect for these guys that risk thier lives working. I have talked with the head of TCIA and they are aware of our production as we are showing the steps to becoming Accredited. Its not about being the best, its about being professional and being willing to learn. Too many people in this industry work too hard just to be looked at as a " TREE GUY"...I really hate that. There will be tech tips, tree health tips and safety as well. We are very excited.
The show will show the Danger element as well as the day to day tasks of running a pro tree care company. Yes, we will feature many tree pros along the way.....we want to be an advocate ...not a show off cocky bunch of idiots. I have alot of respect for these guys that risk thier lives working. I have talked with the head of TCIA and they are aware of our production as we are showing the steps to becoming Accredited. Its not about being the best, its about being professional and being willing to learn. Too many people in this industry work too hard just to be looked at as a " TREE GUY"...I really hate that. There will be tech tips, tree health tips and safety as well. We are very excited.
