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tc262 said:
Wouldn't it be easier to just use the tail of your rope?
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It's one less thing to take up, but I really hate using the climb line tail as a haul line. I do it, sometimes, but I can't say that I like it. It's just me, I'm sure... I don't like dragging it through all manner of branches, hooking chainsaws to my climb line (it doesn't have to be running to cut the rope, and scabbards fall off sometimes) and most of the time the little 1/4" line is easier to drop down (where I need it to go) than the rope tail. Also, I use a little dyneema sling and pulley a lot so I can pull the chainsaw or whatever up from a more natural, comfortable position. I think it's another of those "whatever works best for you" deals.

EDIT: I've had to bounce the rope tail around with a chainsaw attached to get it out of snags on the way up, and although I haven't actually cut the line doing that, it just annoys the shit out of me.
 
JeffGu said:
It's one less thing to take up, but I really hate using the climb line tail as a haul line. I do it, sometimes, but I can't say that I like it. It's just me, I'm sure... I don't like dragging it through all manner of branches, hooking chainsaws to my climb line (it doesn't have to be running to cut the rope, and scabbards fall off sometimes) and most of the time the little 1/4" line is easier to drop down (where I need it to go) than the rope tail. Also, I use a little dyneema sling and pulley a lot so I can pull the chainsaw or whatever up from a more natural, comfortable position. I think it's another of those "whatever works best for you" deals.

EDIT: I've had to bounce the rope tail around with a chainsaw attached to get it out of snags on the way up, and although I haven't actually cut the line doing that, it just annoys the shit out of me.
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I feel like that's needlessly complicated and cumbersome.
 
JeffGu said:
It's one less thing to take up, but I really hate using the climb line tail as a haul line. I do it, sometimes, but I can't say that I like it. It's just me, I'm sure... I don't like dragging it through all manner of branches, hooking chainsaws to my climb line (it doesn't have to be running to cut the rope, and scabbards fall off sometimes) and most of the time the little 1/4" line is easier to drop down (where I need it to go) than the rope tail. Also, I use a little dyneema sling and pulley a lot so I can pull the chainsaw or whatever up from a more natural, comfortable position. I think it's another of those "whatever works best for you" deals.

EDIT: I've had to bounce the rope tail around with a chainsaw attached to get it out of snags on the way up, and although I haven't actually cut the line doing that, it just annoys the shit out of me.
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Sounds legit, seems like more of a hassle to me than it's worth, but just as you said it "whatever works for you." Thanks
 
Drumbo said:
Do you understand the difference between SRT (stationary or single rope technique) and DdRT (doubled rope technique)?

I am just confused by some of your posts:



My understanding is that SRT isn't something that is generally taught at line clearance companies.
Tell me if I am wrong.
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I confused myself. I understand srt but use doubled rope.
 
Even if it isn't taught or allowed by your employer, SRT is something you will want to pursue in your own business. Combined with an ascent system, it will save a lot of wear and tear on your body and speed up production as well.
 
Dragonslayer said:
Even if it isn't taught or allowed by your employer, SRT is something you will want to pursue in your own business. Combined with an ascent system, it will save a lot of wear and tear on your body and speed up production as well.
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I've never tried SRT but I have a basic understanding of how it works. Why would you say it saves so much effort? I know you're ascending a foot for every foot of rope but aren't you working twice as hard as on DRT? Also what are the advantages while descending? Sorry I know this is probably the wrong place to ask this but I just joined the site.
 
@Danny Gardiner welcome to the buzz. It's actually easier to ascend SRT when you have all the combined tools that make it fantastic. I play with it on occasion in the back yard. Others here are more experienced and I'm sure they'll chime in.
 
You have to remember ..... gaining canopy access, for pruning and without spikes is priceless with SRT.
So it's very little trouble for all that it is worth. If it wasn't, nobody here would bother with it much at all.
For this season, I plan on practicing SRT access and then switching to DdRT once up there.
 
Danny Gardiner said:
I've never tried SRT but I have a basic understanding of how it works. Why would you say it saves so much effort? I know you're ascending a foot for every foot of rope but aren't you working twice as hard as on DRT? Also what are the advantages while descending? Sorry I know this is probably the wrong place to ask this but I just joined the site.
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Good questions Danny. When you get dialed in, the movement and effort is pretty similar to climbing a ladder and there's no slack tending. Even on spike climbs you can tie down or weight the tail of your climbing line and slack will self tend. Another advantage is that you don't have to isolate a branch like doubled rope. I'm sure you well understand what a pain that can be in certain trees.
For descent, depending on the work, I will either clip the working end of the climbing line to my bridge and come down doubled rope, or if using a base tie, just come down single rope with the Hitch Hiker.
 
@JG93
Lotta stuff getting thrown around here, lemme get back to your original question.
Webbing slings, carabiners and micro pulleys homie. I use rigging rings now, but before that almost everything was off webbing slings and micro pulleys. DMM pinto pulleys can take a whoopin'. Two pulleys, 3 different sized slings.
The climbing stuff, that's different.
If youre double crotchin' a lot, I'd bring up a eye to eye and pulley or something, unless your totally cool just ripping the Blake's.
Don't get too tied up with the SRT vs ddrt and what each one is and why to use it. Hang out on the buzz, spend some evenings or mornings reading thru different threads discussing SRT. It's easy to get buried by information in a thread where people are using terms and talking about situations you don't understand. Happened to me.
Like said, welcome to the buzz. Keep your mind open, stuff you think is pointless now might later on be the coolest thing you've ever used. The more your open to try, the more you will find that will make your life at work easier and more enjoyable
 
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