when climbing in tree doing a thinning or dead wooding what are your thoughts on keeping the saw running whilist it is hanging on your tool hook attached to your harness(chain break activated,of course)?
running saw?
- Thread starter CHOPPER
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Don't do it.
On my crew you wouldn't be allowed to do that.
What happens if/when the saw bumps into some brush and the brake unlocks? Ouch!
On my crew you wouldn't be allowed to do that.
What happens if/when the saw bumps into some brush and the brake unlocks? Ouch!
fair call....but on a well maintained saw,talking bout a MS200,to bump/hook the saw enough so as to deactivate the chainbrake would mean you wer'nt aware of the saws location thus getting into awkward situations which possible could be due to climbing inexperience.new guys to the game should keep it switched of.
how many times do you start your saw X how many trees do you work X how many years you work? there is got to be some repetitive strain injuries in the wrist/elbow/shoulder from starting a saw a million times
how many times do you start your saw X how many trees do you work X how many years you work? there is got to be some repetitive strain injuries in the wrist/elbow/shoulder from starting a saw a million times
TreeCo
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No running saw for me! I can't stand the practice.
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I agree with Tom and very rarely leave the saw running between limbs...possible exception being if I have two cuts right next to each other and I just want to change the length of a safety or reposition my line a little. But as for keeping it on as you go all around the tree, I don't.
Don't care for the smoke, either.
The 200T I have starts with the flip of the wrist. You can just look at it sometimes and it starts up. (More humor here, Tom,.....watch out!)
I like to start and shut off, start and shut off, all day long.
Don't care for the smoke, either.
The 200T I have starts with the flip of the wrist. You can just look at it sometimes and it starts up. (More humor here, Tom,.....watch out!)
I like to start and shut off, start and shut off, all day long.
TiersonB
more valid points and i may not of been clear-the saw does'nt run through out the entire climb but rather in certain sections of tree then turn off when that section is done.
we use a 100/1 two stroke oil that is smokless.
when blocking down large barrels with a large saw ie. 395 do you keep the saw running between cuts?
thaks for your reply
more valid points and i may not of been clear-the saw does'nt run through out the entire climb but rather in certain sections of tree then turn off when that section is done.
we use a 100/1 two stroke oil that is smokless.
when blocking down large barrels with a large saw ie. 395 do you keep the saw running between cuts?
thaks for your reply
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There are two reasons this int allowed on my crew.
First is safety, bumping a limb etc
The second is how much carbon builds up in a VERY short time in a 2 stroke engine while idling. Carbon is a 2 Strokes worse enemy!
First is safety, bumping a limb etc
The second is how much carbon builds up in a VERY short time in a 2 stroke engine while idling. Carbon is a 2 Strokes worse enemy!
climbhightree
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Another safety reason is communication. It makes it hard for the ground guys to talk to the climber, if they see something he missed.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
I almost never do it but there are rare situations when I do. My saw is like TiersonB's it's easy to start, first pull.
I dont leave it running the whole time but it doesnt get shut off every single time I hook it back to my saddle. For me I guess it depends what my next move in the tree is. If I'm just scooting a bit to one side or the other, it stays running. If I'm doing something that will take a few moments and some thinking and communicating, it goes off.
I'm with you guys, don't like the smoke or wasting fuel or causing carbon build up (but Boston Bull, didn't you say in another thread that you let a cold saw idle for like 60 sec? For the above reasons, I prefer a couple of bumps of the choke lever to get it warmed up within 5 sec).
Yes MB a decompression valve would be nice in the 200, that silly spring in the handle doesn't get it done.
Yes MB a decompression valve would be nice in the 200, that silly spring in the handle doesn't get it done.
treehumper
Carpal tunnel level member
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- Ridgefield, NJ
Shut it down every time. The saws start up easily, communication is never hindered, fuel is conserved, carbon build up is reduced, Less air pollution in your personal space and you're less likely to run out of fuel when doing a take down on a midsized tree.
Like the safety on a gun. It goes off right at the point of firing and back on immediately afterwards. Developed the habit so it's no big deal.
Like the safety on a gun. It goes off right at the point of firing and back on immediately afterwards. Developed the habit so it's no big deal.
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- sunny Madison, WI
x2!
Unless there are several cuts close together. then let it run.
Unless there are several cuts close together. then let it run.
treehumper
Carpal tunnel level member
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- Ridgefield, NJ
As long as it stays in my hands otherwise I shut it off when i let it go. Had it happen that the saw ends up hanging there for awhile then I have to shut it down anyway.
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- Dallas, Texas
Thanks for asking the question. I care about y'all.
The first time I saw this practice I was stunned. I had a hard time breathing. Thanks for bringing that memory back as a reminder.
Not me, not on my crew, not with anyone I hire, and it would be a point of issue to anyone around me doing this while I was on site or knew of it.
With all the variables we deal with in doing our work in three dimensions, I can't see any advantage.
How many times has Mr. Tree reached out and touched us in an inappropriate place? If it can happen, it will.
If its because the saw won't startup, tune it. If your arm gets tired, get a good handsaw and use it to increase your strength.
If its the time you save, look elsewhere.
How many survivors of incidents said to themselves, "Oh, just this once [more]." ?
The first time I saw this practice I was stunned. I had a hard time breathing. Thanks for bringing that memory back as a reminder.
Not me, not on my crew, not with anyone I hire, and it would be a point of issue to anyone around me doing this while I was on site or knew of it.
With all the variables we deal with in doing our work in three dimensions, I can't see any advantage.
How many times has Mr. Tree reached out and touched us in an inappropriate place? If it can happen, it will.
If its because the saw won't startup, tune it. If your arm gets tired, get a good handsaw and use it to increase your strength.
If its the time you save, look elsewhere.
How many survivors of incidents said to themselves, "Oh, just this once [more]." ?
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- St. Paul, MN
I sometimes let it run for a minute if it's hanging on the lanyard below me. I would be worried about melting something on my harness with that hot muffler hangin' so close! After a long, wide open, cut I will often let the saw hang for a minute to cool before I clip it back to my harness.
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- North of Boston
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I'm with you guys, don't like the smoke or wasting fuel or causing carbon build up (but Boston Bull, didn't you say in another thread that you let a cold saw idle for like 60 sec? For the above reasons, I prefer a couple of bumps of the choke lever to get it warmed up within 5 sec).
Yes MB a decompression valve would be nice in the 200, that silly spring in the handle doesn't get it done.
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Yes you are correct, I do let my saws idlel for about a minute in the very cold sub freezing temps. After it is warm I dont like to idle them.
I'm with you guys, don't like the smoke or wasting fuel or causing carbon build up (but Boston Bull, didn't you say in another thread that you let a cold saw idle for like 60 sec? For the above reasons, I prefer a couple of bumps of the choke lever to get it warmed up within 5 sec).
Yes MB a decompression valve would be nice in the 200, that silly spring in the handle doesn't get it done.
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Yes you are correct, I do let my saws idlel for about a minute in the very cold sub freezing temps. After it is warm I dont like to idle them.
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