Rope Runner Problems

Can we assume you have notified Tree Stuff or Kevin so they can see if it's a problem with all of the new RR's?

My red version made prior to the CMI version would have to be tweaked/damaged in order to get far enough out of alignment to cross like in your photo.
 
I held this runner in my hand two days ago, and can attest to the fact that it was not damaged, it was near brand new, and the issues it was having it came out of the box with. In all honesty (i am pained to say so) the construction seemed sub par. At first I thought Jay was crazy to not be immediately in love with his runner. But the issues he is having with it are real
 
I received my RR yesterday, and it was planned to use it today first time.. But now I sae this posting [emoji15] I hope it's not a generell problem with the golden RR, because I'm living in Germany and the shipping costs aren't favourable[emoji23]


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I would think as a general concept that anyone who gets one should double check the tightness of all joints and the bird spring pressure. I had my blue version apart many times and if it is left sloppy it can cause issues.
 
I suspect that the bolts for the spring assembly and the top adjustment are milled inaccurately(too long?). I don't know what "true" is supposed to be in this case, but there is definitely too much "wiggle"
 
we are taking this very seriously. My gold CMI Runner I am not able to cross the bird with a rope installed and I suspect there is a glitch in the assembly or manufacturing. I do not know the extent of this. CMI and Treestuff have been notified. Please send the unit back to treestuff immediately for inspection. Everyone else please inspect your runners to make sure that this issue does not occur.
 
Járnviðr said:
Mac has it in black, Kevin made. Mine in gold- CMI ? Side by side the difference in build quality is palpable. Ive run it for a total of five days, and 20 or so trees. The bottom pin already has a clean 1mm of missing material. The brake pad behind the pulley, 6mm. The bird movement is floppy, the spring installed 180 opposite macs, and 2 less winds. In operation all pins have been original and unchanged. The tether thingy broke, though.
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Thanks very much for posting about this. I would not have known that Kevin pitched off the manufacturing of the Rope Runner to CMI otherwise. It has got to be tough to successfully transition from making something very well yourself, to getting someone else to do it and make it of equal quality.

I find the excessive amount of wear quite disturbing; as though CMI may not be using parts that are up to the rigorous standards that Kevin Bingham insists on for himself.

I bought the original stainless steel Rope Wrench, and it is truly a work of art. You can see how much pride Kevin has in the things he creates.

I've never owned the newer version of the Rope Wrench. I'm wondering how the owners of that device felt about its build quality. That was made by ISC, if I'm not mistaken?

It makes me wonder why Kevin did not stick with them for the Rope Runner. Maybe because CMI makes its stuff here in America.

I feel badly for Kevin about this. He's my freakin' hero, and I would love to see everything he does succeed beyond his wildest expectations.

This is straight up, a quality control problem.

Tim
 
Járnviðr said:
And a replay of the second really bad RR climbing experience: This is why i put a RW pin on top, and switched to a rhino.
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I'm going to take a wild guess that you climbed limbs without the tether point attached and then tended the rope by hand. This would allow the RR to hang low and get all crossed up with the biner and bridge ring. I always have the tether point attached when climbing to prevent slack in the rope that lets this happen. Some minor changes in your technique may work better with the RR (or any other new tool).

Obviously this does not address the other problem of your RR being able to bind on itself.
 
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