moss
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What you’re not an addicted slave to social media and have a life? Congratulations! Good OP, created great/useful conversation, thx.
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ghostice
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Keep saying I've used wetting a rag with some 99% isopropanol on ropes, metal gear (and car paint) for sap for years. Sap, especially fresh, comes off slick as a whistle.
Last year I got so pitched up on a traverse that the hitch had to be cut off, literally, in the air and I came the rest of the way back on a munter. That was fun - not. This year gonna try a zillon on tachyon maybe rather than the 10mm Sirius that came with the Captain. Maybe goo/gum/sap won't be so debillitating.
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Crimsonking
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Good on you. Careful making friends here, we might be a bad influence on that discipline.
Thanks for sharing about yourself. There’s a great benefit to a scenario like yours, getting some mrs under your belt before getting into srs. Are you currently climbing regularly with another srs climber? If not, try to build a connection with someone that you can grow with in it. I didn’t have to facilitate that for my journey since all the guys I was working with were focused on growing, too. Sharing ideas or things we’ve seen/learned is such a great way to speed up the process while making it fun.
Thanks for sticking with us through initiation.
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I climb mrs at work and srs when I bring my stuff in to do it and when I get free time on the weekend I do try to climb srs with someone so if I get in a pinch I can ask. But around where I live it’s hard to find people that srs because it’s all line work. No one does pruning or anything to save a tree it’s all about can I take it down and spike it. A lot of people don’t know you can save a tree and maybe it’s not dying. That’s the difference I want to make around where I live.
So I gotta ask... What is your MRS system at work?
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The rope unfortunately is a 120ft sasquatch 1 eye. Normally run a 4 wrap VT. Ran through a thimble saver. Haven’t tried to many knots running wise after I found the vt. Only have like 6 or 7 hours tops on any other knot than the VT. Which is a downside on me. Been working on the weekends hard with the Blake’s since that is right now my weakest point. Besides the knots I have on my lanyards. That’s a dist and a VT
So its sounds like your running a hitch climber with a 4 wrap VT...That is a solid foundation to build upon. Do yourself a favor and start playing with a Michoacán/Petrocan... Whether it be with a MRS hitch climber setup or a Rope Wrench, a well dialed Mich/Petro can give any mechanical (SRS & MRS) a run for its money in quickness and ease of tending and also offer a silky sweetness that no mechanical I have used can match (ZigZag, SpiderJack, Lockjack, Rope Runner, Akimbo, BDB, Unicender). There is a reason many of the top climbers in the world still go to a HC/Wrench setup... It may not be the latest and greatest, but its just that good..
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Nice will have to do that. Just got the fusion last week and been looking for a different knot to use on it since I didn’t like how the VT felt on it the 3 times I tried it. I’ll definitely try one, was looking at the mich to try this weekend.
Do yourself a favor and pick up a wrench with a shorty @height tether ( double ) special order from wesspur of gap arborist carries it.
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Never navigated wesspur how do I go about doing that?
Crimsonking
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@Height Double Leg Tether
This is a tether designed for use with the ZK2 Rope Wrench.
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Not wesspur, but here’s the tether.
Tree-Taylor
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We had a discussion yesterday about why certain industries progress slowly. Ego...that's really all it comes down to. Old timers want newbs to be submissive. They don't want to be challenged by someone they feel beneath them. Most of all old timers often fear change and fear having their weaknesses exposed. Yes be humble but telling newbs to keep their mouth shut? That's the worst advice you could possibly give a young person. That is the time they should be asking the most questions, and not just blindly accepting what is is passed down to them as the truth. This is how the cycle continues. Not every old timer is a rockstar or the most knowledgeable. We finally have a generation that isn't afraid to questions and I for one think there's a lot of merit, even if it urks me from time to time. There are times when the young whipper snappers need to be knocked down a notch or two but again...that's just their budding ego. They're different from us...not worse just different.
You quite accurately hit on some repetitive truths, with the exception that you lumped all old timers together,, but this is not one of them. Inquisitive questioning is not a generational attribute but an individual one.
If anything, our current educational systems of read and regurgitate, memorization, focus on just that one portion of the brain. It does little to develop 'thinking' (memorization is not thinking) or connecting that information. We can see the results daily, as people stumble and are unable to grasp situations that have not been covered and are constantly looking for the support of 'experts' to fill in the blanks.
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So what’s your srt set up? If I may ask? And do you ever just run multiple set ups in a tree? Because I’ve been trying to find different ways to move around in the canopy. While being 20ft or further away and getting back to the main tip without a hard swing.@Height Double Leg Tether
This is a tether designed for use with the ZK2 Rope Wrench.
Not wesspur, but here’s the tether.
Our education system is only partly accountable for the lack of critical thinking that you're referring to. Parents are still responsible for the bulk of who children become and how they view and process the world. Teachers can't make up for bad or absent parenting.
I wonder what would happen to this industry if those with a well established skill and knowledge base just stopped passing on both? I wonder what would happen if thoses with both the skill and knowledge base stopped thinking, tinkering, and trying to moving this industry forward? I wonder if devices like the HH2, Saka, Rope Runner, Akimbo, Uni, Wrench, ect came from the minds of persons with very little actual experience operating at heights?
And the notion that old-timers somehow "fear change and fear having their weaknesses exposed"? Tell that to the SCORES of highly experienced climbers here who have incorporated the very latest tools/techniques into their daily climbing lives... pure rubbish.
Imagine if a highly experienced/expert climber like @swingdude (uses a RR by the way) had been there to assist the OP as he was experimenting with the RR Pro? Do you think Swing would have allowed the OP to do something that could have brought great harm to himself? Nope. That is how the "cycle has continued" since we left the cave, and has in fact been a very important part of the evolutionary process of both man and beast.
And the notion that old-timers somehow "fear change and fear having their weaknesses exposed"? Tell that to the SCORES of highly experienced climbers here who have incorporated the very latest tools/techniques into their daily climbing lives... pure rubbish.
Imagine if a highly experienced/expert climber like @swingdude (uses a RR by the way) had been there to assist the OP as he was experimenting with the RR Pro? Do you think Swing would have allowed the OP to do something that could have brought great harm to himself? Nope. That is how the "cycle has continued" since we left the cave, and has in fact been a very important part of the evolutionary process of both man and beast.
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True, and that was not my intent. Current generations learn from those of past generations, and there is no simple answer to complex social interactions.
Pat, black-and-white answers, such as lumping an entire generation into a behavioral 'normal' discount the importance of those found on the extremes.
ghostice
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I find that many people now, young and older, just accept as fact what they are told or what is commonly known to be true without questioning the basis of their reality. Recent COVID science seems like this - one peer reviewed paper comes out now and we have a whole new set of "beliefs" without bothering to consider someone else's research may come out with a different or slightly different set of "facts" shortly thereafter.
We were taught in grad school to always question the basis of whatever has gone before you and to be prepared for a new paradigm as it may evolve. Even as august a body as the Royal College of Medicine thoroughly rebuked Joseph Lister for daring to promote carbolic acid misting as a means of keeping surgeries aseptic and preventing infection. And on and on. August bodies are not always right with the benefit of hindsight.
To this end, I find one of the most valuable things one can try and instil in a child or a student is what I like to call "the questioning mind". Tecumseh was probably like this. Education and degrees do not always confer wisdom.
I'd like to leave us with this quote, a favourite of mine:
"Whom then do I call educated? First, those who manage well the circumstances they encounter day by day. Next, those who are decent and honourable in their intercourse with all men, bearing easily and good naturedly what is offensive in others and being as agreeable and reasonable to their associates as is humanly possible to be... those who hold their pleasures always under control and are not ultimately overcome by their misfortunes... those who are not spoiled by their successes, who do not desert their true selves but hold their ground steadfastly as wise and sober - minded men."
Socrates
Cheers all
We were taught in grad school to always question the basis of whatever has gone before you and to be prepared for a new paradigm as it may evolve. Even as august a body as the Royal College of Medicine thoroughly rebuked Joseph Lister for daring to promote carbolic acid misting as a means of keeping surgeries aseptic and preventing infection. And on and on. August bodies are not always right with the benefit of hindsight.
To this end, I find one of the most valuable things one can try and instil in a child or a student is what I like to call "the questioning mind". Tecumseh was probably like this. Education and degrees do not always confer wisdom.
I'd like to leave us with this quote, a favourite of mine:
"Whom then do I call educated? First, those who manage well the circumstances they encounter day by day. Next, those who are decent and honourable in their intercourse with all men, bearing easily and good naturedly what is offensive in others and being as agreeable and reasonable to their associates as is humanly possible to be... those who hold their pleasures always under control and are not ultimately overcome by their misfortunes... those who are not spoiled by their successes, who do not desert their true selves but hold their ground steadfastly as wise and sober - minded men."
Socrates
Cheers all
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Crimsonking
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Right now I mainly run the rrp for srs, as it’s simpler for for switching between mrs and srs, which happens a lot on crane jobs. Before I got it, I used a hitch climber pulley, 10mm 30” hitch (tied VT), and kept my wrench on my saddle so I could switch between srs and mrs. Instead of incorporating the tether eyes with my hitch, I used an ISC Mighty Mouse biner to clip the tether to the middle hole by capturing an eye on either side of the pulley on the flat top of the biner. The flat section kept the tether eyes from traveling down the sides of the biner during ascent.
For coming back to the trunk, you can use your rope tail with a Blake’s as a second system or pull a bight below your system, wrap it around a nearby stem, and hand lower yourself with that bight. There are several other ways to get back to the trunk, and some the others replying to this thread have some smart ways to do it. The two I shared are simple, but not always ideal depending on the situation.
@rope-a-dope likes to use a shorter, second system for maximum maneuverability. He should have some good tips.
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