Rope opinions

[PUClimber]

Well it is time for a new longer rope once again as my dragonfly has gotten shorter and shorter over the past year. I was looking at the fly again or the neopro. In additon to this I have a shorter length of the blaze and like it as well. I won't to stay with the smaller diameter rope. I looked at the neopro at the TCIA and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions or opinions.

 

[Colin]

I always like to buy a different color every time, usually 12 strand.

 

[Blinky]

I have neopro for a lanyard and I like the way it handles but I nicked it with a saw and the picks just keep getting worse. I've done the same with PI and the picks are stable. Could be just a difference in the way they were nicked but I don't think I'll buy neopro for a lifeline.

For skinny rope I like PI. Velocity is good too but I like PI better... I don't care for Blaze because it doesn't fit my hands well, good rope though. New England Tachyon felt exactly like PI but I don't think it's available yet. I'm gonna try it next time I need a rope... and the fact that's it's a different color from PI is a big reason. Had Tachyon not come out I would've tried Dragonfly next.

For 1/2" rope I don't think you can beat 16 strand Hi-vee... it's just one of the best all around climbing ropes you can buy... excellent for footlocking.

Wait, you're into SRT now right? Wouldn't that mean static rope or is that just for access?

 

[PUClimber]

This is to work off. I work of some drt and srt now doing both. I like to mix it up and keep options open depending on the tree. A lot of times I'll use my petzl vector as an access line and then work off a floating false crotch or fs with my fly.

 

[Stumper]

I prefer good ole fat Arbormaster for day to day use but Poison Ivy is nice rope despite the stupid name and , unlike Chip, I actually like Velocity even better than the PI.

 

[PUClimber]

I had velocity and it was alright butnot a big fan. I am looking for the 11mm or 7/16 whatever you want to call it.

 

[The_Pheniox]

Poison Ivy

 

[The_Pheniox]

with bee line as a tail

 

[Stumper]

Velocity is 11mm/7/16ths. Sounds like you want PI(11.7mm or Blaze-(11.4????). The Fly is called 7/16ths but it is fluffy stuff and when well used seems to be almost 1/2 inch size though it is lightweight.

 

[treesandsurf]

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The Fly is called 7/16ths but it is fluffy stuff and when well used seems to be almost 1/2 inch size though it is lightweight.

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I agree about the Fly, feels closer to 1/2 inch than 7/16 to me (especially when broken in).

Highly recommend the blaze, but have yet to use the PI or PI Hi-vee so can't comment on those lines.

jp

 

[jumbomonkey]

I picked up a hank of Tachyon at TCI and love it. It is very similar to to the Fly but the splice is clean. The triple braid or extra 4 strands down the middle does seem to keep it a bit rounder then Velocity or Blaze. Only draw back is durability. I don't use friction savers as much as I should and the rope is showing a lot of wear for the 3 months I have been climbing on it. My Velocity's last a year or so.

 

[Zac]

I use and like the blaze for my everyday climbing. I have a 200' length of the fly that I like too, but it doesn't get used much.

what is Tachyon?

 

[Blinky]

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with bee line as a tail

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Have you tried HRC (New England Therma-Shield)? Beeline is great on PI but HRC is even better.

Tachyon is New England's latest lifeline rope. It's triple braid, 24 strand I think; the 3rd braid is a core to keep it round. I've never climbed on it but it felt just like PI.

 

[Mahk_Adams]

Tachyon is 24 strand double braid with a core. That is, a typical double braid is a braided rope within a braided rope. The inner braided rope is hollow, and, depending on how tight the weave is, there is some amount of squeeze or bagginess. Tachyon's inner braided rope has a core, so the rope is firmer and stiffer than typical double braids.

Attached is one side of NER's sell sheet for Tachyon.

This is a post I wrote for the thread NeoPro Reviews in Rigging and Roping:

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When the 11mm lines came out they were were touted as being lighter and having less surface friction. But, because of the smaller diameter, they are more difficult to hold and pull.

Interestingly, rope manufactureres have addressed this issue in different ways.

New England introduced Tachyon, which is a 24 strand double braid with a solid core, so that it maintains its shape and is easier to hold.

Samson introduced Lightning, which is a 1/2 inch 16 strand, so that it is easier to hold, with a new type of core, so that it is lighter than traditional 16 strand lines.

All Gear introduced NeoPro which is a 16 strand, so that is easier to hold and has a familiar feel, but is 7/16 inch, so that it is lighter than traditional 1/2 inch 16 strand lines.

Three different approaches to making climbing easier.

Yale has had great success with Blaze and did not introduce any new climbing line.


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[Mahk_Adams]

Other side of the sell sheet.

I don't see that NER has called Tachyon a triple braid. Tachyon is a double braid with a core.

'Triple braid' sounds like the start of inaccurate nomenclature so I think that that term should probably be avoided.

 

[Marc_H]

I use both PI and Velocity with bee line. The PI is easier on the hands and I prefer it for a working line. For SRT I like the Velocity better. That said I think my next rope will be Arbormaster or one of the new Smartcore ropes by Samson. I have a hard time using skinny ropes when my hands are cold.

 

[jumbomonkey]

NER and Sherrill were definitely using the term "triple braid" at TCI. I do agree that it is misrepresenting what the rope is. Here is a pic. of the cores.

 

[familytree]

pi is nice, i use velocity and it is definitely skinny but has a nice grip to it, im interested in new englands new rope though, i bounce back and forth between my pi and velocity for srt climbs, the pi definitely has more stretch compared to the velocity and im not too fond of how well the rope responds to certain split tails, i couldnt get the ocean polyester to synch to save my life, but then again i did only try a vt.

anyone know when the new new england rope will be available?

 

[Mark Chisholm]

Tachyon is a great choice.

 

[PUClimber]

Ok well I am torn between what rope to purchase still. I am leaning towards the neopro due to it's 16 strand construction and the ability to take some more abuse and natural crotches.