Rigging by yourself?

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so would you double whip friction saver in? if so that is absolutely brilliant

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Affirmative.
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(Help should be profitable i.e. 2 persons @8hrs for $80 per hour equals $1280. Help expense $2-300)
 
If you find yourself wanting to make more of the time in the tree, you can learn to lower stuff yourself while there is a groundworker. I sometimes need to swing something where the time lapse and communication lapse of calling down what I need can make the situation less predictable. If it lower the limb as it swings, I can watch it closely, and know how much I want the limb lowered, and exactly when.

Yesterday, I was doing removals with a crash landing zone for a bunch of rigged limbs. I was able to stay busy in the tree while the groundman was able to stay busy on the ground. In any time that he had extra, while waiting for a piece to land, he had the opportunity to stretch and catch his breath, far from the landing zone, and we could keep the rope routed away from the landing zone.

On anything that needed to be landed, this same set-up allows him to have the brush to deal with, while not having to bring the rope to the same place as the brush is landing.
 
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Nah I dont have any tricks up the sleave.
ALOT of up and down when I rig alone.
Im loving this system explained in this thread and think taking up a bunch of slings is the way to go.
Looks a little complicated to retrieve the same sling each time. I cant wait to try it.
Just remember, there is no 911 caller on a one man job.

so lonley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToYUtvOKmSE

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I really liked the video and you used the porty in the tree then relieved the tension so you can then keep moving down. I think that's what I saw. Great vid! I usually have someone with me. Even had HO's sweating. always worth paying someone to carry my stuff and move things around.
 
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so would you double whip friction saver in? if so that is absolutely brilliant

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Not really sure what this means. Could someone elaborate. Thanks
 
try cutting smaller pieces and setting up a speed line and using small endless loops and lower a bunch down on the speed line..but watch the pull on the attachment line to the tree, this might allow less trips up and down.
 
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inefficient?............... to me it's not a big deal to spike and self belay myself up 75' in a couple of minutes. imho it's just another day at the office

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I wonder if you will feel the same way in 15 years?
 
thats the same thing that was said to me when i was an ironworker ten years ago. i feel better now than i did then. hopefully with good exercise, flexibility training, a positive attitude, and a healthy diet i will be a better man than i am now ten years from now. thanks for your concern we probably need to get back on topic though. i'll fill you in on what my doctor says about my health after my next check up since you so concerned.
 
I like to use a short spider leg (6-8 feet). If I cant handle the piece I will girth the spliced end on the piece and tie a cow hitch on the remaining (butt tying it). I normally dont do this with anything more than 200-250 lbs. Then when it is hanging there I can either slide the spliced end off the piece and thorw it down or cut the piece into managable sizes. This has worked well for me, it is still no replacement for a ground guy but it makes some jobs more economical with out that extra expence.
 
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Just remember, there is no 911 caller on a one man job.

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Agreed, but who are you going to depend on to rescue you? I work alone about half the time and i accept this risk. Calling 911 doesnt save your life, the people that come to save you do. Are your local emergency services trained to take on this type of rescue? How long will it take to get a high angle team? Do they have a ladder that will reach? Is anyone working with thier local fire/rescue companies to show them what we do and how to rescue us? If you answered no or I dont know to any of these then you might want to find out before working without another person that can save your bacon.
I know around here there are very few fire/rescue cos, that have these capabilities or even carry a rope on their trucks.
Not trying to start anything, just questions to ask yourself. Stay safe
 
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... I work alone about half the time and i accept this risk. Calling 911 doesnt save your life, the people that come to save you do. Are your local emergency services trained to take on this type of rescue? How long will it take to get a high angle team? ...
Not trying to start anything, just questions to ask yourself. Stay safe

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Oh, that's an excellent point! Even when not working alone, <u>real</u> 'trained' help could be a couple of hours away. If I couldn't 'self-rescue' before then, might as well leave me up there ...
“Buzzards gotta eat, same as worms.” - Josey Wales
 
After reading this thread I have a few thoughts....
Rigging by yourself is a calculated risk that many of us have decided to do at one point or another. It can be dangerous and there is always the potential for a situation that could leave us hurt or stuck in a tree.I would like to say that I am wholeheartedly against working alone but I have gone contrary to my own good judgment once or twice.That being said we really need to think of the people who may be required to help if we get hurt.Our risk becomes an others in those situations.If we decide to work alone we need to plan even better and build even more redundancy into our plans.A crew with a groundman who doesn't climb is little better. even if your goundman can't climb does your set-up have a way to easily allow him to belay you from the ground if you were hurt and had limited mobility? What about networking? Are you in touch with other local climbers with the skills to get you out of a tree in such a circumstance? My cell phone has 3 different guys that my groundman could call(after calling 911) to help in an aerial rescue situation.I think the key here is that we avoid as many issues as possible while still enjoying our jobs and having fun.
wow! did I go off a little there? Sorry, but I was feeling it.
 
I have a cabin 2 hours north of civilization and 5 hours off the road. New technology has made communication possible but the point is when I'm there you do things a lot more carefully knowing a minor injury could be the end. But at that I still operate a chainsaw naked, ski off rock cliffs, and run whitewater, just carefully. Same as rigging alone, slow it down and think things through. It's not for everyone.
 
This seems to me like a stupid question, but, does anyone take there cell phone up the tree with them. I never do, take anything for that matter, up the tree besides what I need to work. I mean if working by youself and the situation arises, you could call for you own help. (assuming your not unconcious) I always carry a whistle with me climbing though. I guess if I blew it enough someone might come see what was going on.
 
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