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Re: retreivable redirects
Right. Have you tried it?
Right. Have you tried it?
retreivable redirects
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i have.....dont like it. i think its a very dated technique these days, although it can have its place like anything else. i rarely even use a re-direct to be honest
i have.....dont like it. i think its a very dated technique these days, although it can have its place like anything else. i rarely even use a re-direct to be honest
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hey, whit. that is the best idea for a retrievable redirect I have seen yet. I dont know if it works, but I will try it first thing. I like your thinking that one through. Looking at the diagram, it makes perfect sense to me. Sweet, thanks.
hey, whit. that is the best idea for a retrievable redirect I have seen yet. I dont know if it works, but I will try it first thing. I like your thinking that one through. Looking at the diagram, it makes perfect sense to me. Sweet, thanks.
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I wonder if there is a smooth way to not have the two lengths of rope crossing up on eachother causing friction as they go through the big carabiner. Maybe by using that double pulley from petzl that has no sheave in the middle? I dont know. WHat I like about this setup is that it is basically the same technique for getting your rope out of a natural redirect. Having to untie the friction hitch seems like a little of a pain, we'll see. cool.
I wonder if there is a smooth way to not have the two lengths of rope crossing up on eachother causing friction as they go through the big carabiner. Maybe by using that double pulley from petzl that has no sheave in the middle? I dont know. WHat I like about this setup is that it is basically the same technique for getting your rope out of a natural redirect. Having to untie the friction hitch seems like a little of a pain, we'll see. cool.
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Hi Whit. Your diagram is not the MWT that Steve refers too, but I see what your getting at.
However I think that to remove the Re de only your gonna have problems as you are trying to pass the friction hitch through the large ring (Krab).
Also while trying to remove the whole thing you sending the stopper not up and trying to pass it through the small ring so problems there aswell.
To easily remove the whole set up your re de needs to be placed the other way round i.e. small ring on friction side of yuor rope. This way though you can't retrieve the re de only.
Hi Whit. Your diagram is not the MWT that Steve refers too, but I see what your getting at.
However I think that to remove the Re de only your gonna have problems as you are trying to pass the friction hitch through the large ring (Krab).
Also while trying to remove the whole thing you sending the stopper not up and trying to pass it through the small ring so problems there aswell.
To easily remove the whole set up your re de needs to be placed the other way round i.e. small ring on friction side of yuor rope. This way though you can't retrieve the re de only.
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Your method id very similar to this one though, which I haven't tried but it looks good.
http://www.treesunlimited.co.uk/CLIMBERS/TIPS/tipone.htm
Your method id very similar to this one though, which I haven't tried but it looks good.
http://www.treesunlimited.co.uk/CLIMBERS/TIPS/tipone.htm
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Re: retreivable redirects
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I think that to remove the Re de only your gonna have problems as you are trying to pass the friction hitch through the large ring (Krab).
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I was thinking to remove the hitch entirely, but perhaps pulling it through would work as well. Or not, like you're saying.
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Also while trying to remove the whole thing you sending the stopper not up and trying to pass it through the small ring so problems there aswell.
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Possible solutions:
If your Primary TIP is a FS, use a large ring or carabiner on the Redirect and forego the small ring. There's no need for it. If you are retrieving the Redirect only, it will slide down to you just the same. If retrieving the whole setup, the retrieval link/knot will go through the first ring on the Redirect (right side in my diagram), up to the TIP, and when the FS comes back to you, the Redirect should still be on line.
Rupe posted a link to a similar, but simpler, setup. I think that would work better.
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I think that to remove the Re de only your gonna have problems as you are trying to pass the friction hitch through the large ring (Krab).
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I was thinking to remove the hitch entirely, but perhaps pulling it through would work as well. Or not, like you're saying.
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Also while trying to remove the whole thing you sending the stopper not up and trying to pass it through the small ring so problems there aswell.
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Possible solutions:
If your Primary TIP is a FS, use a large ring or carabiner on the Redirect and forego the small ring. There's no need for it. If you are retrieving the Redirect only, it will slide down to you just the same. If retrieving the whole setup, the retrieval link/knot will go through the first ring on the Redirect (right side in my diagram), up to the TIP, and when the FS comes back to you, the Redirect should still be on line.
Rupe posted a link to a similar, but simpler, setup. I think that would work better.
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i tried the m redirect today on a small ash. it wasnt too smooth but it worked well and in this situation i would normally have struggled through without a redi rather than set up hardware, so the fact it didnt need any hardware certainly made it a useful tool!
i tried the m redirect today on a small ash. it wasnt too smooth but it worked well and in this situation i would normally have struggled through without a redi rather than set up hardware, so the fact it didnt need any hardware certainly made it a useful tool!
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Whits method would work. A little combursome for sure but releasing your friction hitch and pulling the tail of your rope would release the redirect. Not much chance in early retrieval. I feel there's still more efficient methods to use. SRT will have advantages over DRT in this realm. Of course it will have disadvantages as well /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Whits method would work. A little combursome for sure but releasing your friction hitch and pulling the tail of your rope would release the redirect. Not much chance in early retrieval. I feel there's still more efficient methods to use. SRT will have advantages over DRT in this realm. Of course it will have disadvantages as well /forum/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
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Re: retreivable redirects
how would a retrievable redirect in srt work?
how would a retrievable redirect in srt work?
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