Willie
I find It Sad That you can Trash Talk about Someone you Dont Know
Im refering to your post as the Guy who climbed a 50 foot tree with a 15 foot rope decended off the end of it and was hauled to the hospital. now I dont understand how someone called a climber doesent know he only has 15 feet of line and decends
Get your Facts Before you mock someone who has been thru something like this
This Man Was a victim of an unfortunate accident Of wich it seems you have none of the facts.Being a friend of this man Im sadden to see him getting Trash talked by someone who apparently hasnt been in the arborist world long.I could go on and explain the details of this accident but it would be to no avail for it seems you have pasted judgement on anyone who works for a utility company as a Line Clearance Tree Trimmer.I hope you will someday wake up and Look around The gentlmen
You refered to is an isa certified arborist owned his own private business
with over 25 years experiance
I wish you had takin the time to read a post in this forum from speelyei
So I will Quote it here for you now as this is my first and probably last time to this websight
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I worked for Trees also. I saw the same kind of thing. BUT....
There is a fundamental difference in Line clearance and residential work. Residential tree services promote care and maintenance of trees in an urban environment, with tree health and apperance, and customer satisfaction, being the end goal. Removals are also a component, and it is up to the bidder or owner to make the determination if the removal is warranted.
Line Clearance deals with spatial conflicts and the powerline and associated hardware has priority.
Trees inc operates in predominantly the Southern half of Or, and N California. A great deal of the trimmers time is spent in small rural communities, coastal right of ways, and gravel roads through BLM and forest land. While working for Trees, I myself got a 80' climb line and hooked trees that were in excess of 100'. That doesn't mean I climbed to the top of the tree. I only climbed as high as needed to get my work done safely. The reason for the short rope is because I might have to walk a couple miles down the line to get to where we had to work. I would also walk or run to the next tree without coiling my line. Also, a LCTT might climb 15 trees before lunch. I needed enough rope to position myself and descend. No more.
Did I mention I have been using a Schwabisch for a couple years? That I too am a certified arborist? That I can set a line with a throwball and ascend with Jumars? That I know how to footlock and use a micro-pulley and a cambium saver, and a speedline and a fiddle block and also a GRCS? But none of those tools or techniques were appropriate for the task at hand . It may be your friends lack of experience that makes it difficult for him to differentiate what's appropriate for a 100 year old Beech tree in the front yard of an urban home, and whats appropriate for a volunteer Doug Fir with a broken top growing on the edge of a right of way.
I think most trimmers in Line Clearance start to categorize trees. There are some that are mature and have developed a full canopy with good shape that can be trimmed artistically, which warrant more time and attention. Then there are trees that have to be trimmed severely or removed because the spatial conflict cannot be adequately resolved and still maintain reliable electrical service. And without that, you might not be reading this right now.
I guess my point is, I worked with a lot of good trimmers in both Residential and Line clearance. I also worked with lazy, ignorant workers in both venues. the difference is, the line guys never bashed on the res guys.
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I find It Sad That you can Trash Talk about Someone you Dont Know
Im refering to your post as the Guy who climbed a 50 foot tree with a 15 foot rope decended off the end of it and was hauled to the hospital. now I dont understand how someone called a climber doesent know he only has 15 feet of line and decends
Get your Facts Before you mock someone who has been thru something like this
This Man Was a victim of an unfortunate accident Of wich it seems you have none of the facts.Being a friend of this man Im sadden to see him getting Trash talked by someone who apparently hasnt been in the arborist world long.I could go on and explain the details of this accident but it would be to no avail for it seems you have pasted judgement on anyone who works for a utility company as a Line Clearance Tree Trimmer.I hope you will someday wake up and Look around The gentlmen
You refered to is an isa certified arborist owned his own private business
with over 25 years experiance
I wish you had takin the time to read a post in this forum from speelyei
So I will Quote it here for you now as this is my first and probably last time to this websight
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I worked for Trees also. I saw the same kind of thing. BUT....
There is a fundamental difference in Line clearance and residential work. Residential tree services promote care and maintenance of trees in an urban environment, with tree health and apperance, and customer satisfaction, being the end goal. Removals are also a component, and it is up to the bidder or owner to make the determination if the removal is warranted.
Line Clearance deals with spatial conflicts and the powerline and associated hardware has priority.
Trees inc operates in predominantly the Southern half of Or, and N California. A great deal of the trimmers time is spent in small rural communities, coastal right of ways, and gravel roads through BLM and forest land. While working for Trees, I myself got a 80' climb line and hooked trees that were in excess of 100'. That doesn't mean I climbed to the top of the tree. I only climbed as high as needed to get my work done safely. The reason for the short rope is because I might have to walk a couple miles down the line to get to where we had to work. I would also walk or run to the next tree without coiling my line. Also, a LCTT might climb 15 trees before lunch. I needed enough rope to position myself and descend. No more.
Did I mention I have been using a Schwabisch for a couple years? That I too am a certified arborist? That I can set a line with a throwball and ascend with Jumars? That I know how to footlock and use a micro-pulley and a cambium saver, and a speedline and a fiddle block and also a GRCS? But none of those tools or techniques were appropriate for the task at hand . It may be your friends lack of experience that makes it difficult for him to differentiate what's appropriate for a 100 year old Beech tree in the front yard of an urban home, and whats appropriate for a volunteer Doug Fir with a broken top growing on the edge of a right of way.
I think most trimmers in Line Clearance start to categorize trees. There are some that are mature and have developed a full canopy with good shape that can be trimmed artistically, which warrant more time and attention. Then there are trees that have to be trimmed severely or removed because the spatial conflict cannot be adequately resolved and still maintain reliable electrical service. And without that, you might not be reading this right now.
I guess my point is, I worked with a lot of good trimmers in both Residential and Line clearance. I also worked with lazy, ignorant workers in both venues. the difference is, the line guys never bashed on the res guys.
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