Putting a bid together on some monsters!!
- Thread starter Roger_Barnett
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That job looks great. heads up to you and a pat on the back.
Roger_Barnett
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Thanks Mike for that video!! You sure shot a lot that day!
Here's a link to a bunch of pics on Flickr, which I just joined. It didn't put the pics in the correct order....oh well. As I get time, I'll add comments to some of the shots. It also doesn't accept tags to embed pics. But it did allow me to put larger sizes up than photobucket, and I could drag and drop any number of pics at once ( by highlighting them all at once) to the Flickr downloader which is now on my hard drive.
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a few highlights:
swinging a top from right tree- block in left tree gin pole, GRCS tensioned- note the fine debris falling- thus we briefly stopped traffic.
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Scott dropping a top into our good drop zone between the house and street
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It was in horrible shape..scary, eh?!!
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me dropping top of last tree into street...
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and the butt cut on this tree..why I didn't want to rig anything big off it. We'd had several Resistograph samples taken by Scott Baker...
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Here's a link to a bunch of pics on Flickr, which I just joined. It didn't put the pics in the correct order....oh well. As I get time, I'll add comments to some of the shots. It also doesn't accept tags to embed pics. But it did allow me to put larger sizes up than photobucket, and I could drag and drop any number of pics at once ( by highlighting them all at once) to the Flickr downloader which is now on my hard drive.
[url="http://www.flickr.com/photos/13705992@N00/sets/72057594115263812/"]http://www.flickr.com/photos/13705992@N00/sets/72057594115263812/[/url]
a few highlights:
swinging a top from right tree- block in left tree gin pole, GRCS tensioned- note the fine debris falling- thus we briefly stopped traffic.
[url="http://static.flickr.com/47/133874160_6882c5159f_o.jpg"]]http://static.flickr.com/47/133874160_6882c5159f_o.jpg][/url]
Scott dropping a top into our good drop zone between the house and street
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It was in horrible shape..scary, eh?!!
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me dropping top of last tree into street...
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and the butt cut on this tree..why I didn't want to rig anything big off it. We'd had several Resistograph samples taken by Scott Baker...
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
Nice work as usual Roger!
Roger_Barnett
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If you open the Flickr link, you can choose to view as a slide show, or look for "all sizes" above the photo that you've clicked on, to see a larger size.
Here's some more:
This large limb came from the second tree. It was over the road. We pulled it over into the block run from a gim pole in the first tree, with the GRCS. As with the third and fourth trees, we had tied some leaders together and sucked them up to give us a more solid rigging point. Later, I had a lapse and cut all the way through a small dead stub that weighed but a few ounces. Before I could grab it, it fell away and landed on a white 56 TBird....some minor damage dang it...the guy wasn't too pissed, said he might let me do some tree work in trade... On day 2, my awesome 18 inch wide pitch fork was run partway throught the chipper, which made for some mighty hard going the rest of the day. I got done Thursday at 8 pm, after dumping the truck and changing the knives. Still have to flip the messed up anvil to a better edge.
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I've never done such a technical job in such close proximity to constant traffic. We had to temporarily stop traffic when doing any risky cut...We only had certified flaggers for crane day, when one lane was blocked for a few hours.
from the crane day:
A 40x46 inch cut that Scott Chapple made from about 8 feet up.. his flip line was too short to go around the stem.
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I thought this was funny. Scott and Travis riding the ball together. Note the rain on the camera...uggh.
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Scott tied off a section, then swung over to the next one, and waited while Travis made the cut.
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We craned them all in maybe 3 hours, but were able to leave the butts for the trash truck to pick while I cut them off. Schweet! He had a 14 ton capacity boom with a huge clam attached. He even loaded some debris for us, and dug out around a couple stumps so I could cut them lower for the stump grinder. They charge $400 a load, for a 35-40 yard truck. Not bad.
Turns out these trees weren't as tall as I thought they were. I'd triangulated them with Mattheck's cool sighting device, and estimated 120....they were more like 105 tops.
Only real concerns were the close quarters and the decayed stems....
Here's some more:
This large limb came from the second tree. It was over the road. We pulled it over into the block run from a gim pole in the first tree, with the GRCS. As with the third and fourth trees, we had tied some leaders together and sucked them up to give us a more solid rigging point. Later, I had a lapse and cut all the way through a small dead stub that weighed but a few ounces. Before I could grab it, it fell away and landed on a white 56 TBird....some minor damage dang it...the guy wasn't too pissed, said he might let me do some tree work in trade... On day 2, my awesome 18 inch wide pitch fork was run partway throught the chipper, which made for some mighty hard going the rest of the day. I got done Thursday at 8 pm, after dumping the truck and changing the knives. Still have to flip the messed up anvil to a better edge.
http://static.flickr.com/53/133874084_069daff992_o.jpg
I've never done such a technical job in such close proximity to constant traffic. We had to temporarily stop traffic when doing any risky cut...We only had certified flaggers for crane day, when one lane was blocked for a few hours.
from the crane day:
A 40x46 inch cut that Scott Chapple made from about 8 feet up.. his flip line was too short to go around the stem.
http://static.flickr.com/47/133874608_6a56e37476_o.jpg
I thought this was funny. Scott and Travis riding the ball together. Note the rain on the camera...uggh.
http://static.flickr.com/46/133874874_8162d8e532_o.jpg
Scott tied off a section, then swung over to the next one, and waited while Travis made the cut.
http://static.flickr.com/51/133874989_7c538f0dee_o.jpg
We craned them all in maybe 3 hours, but were able to leave the butts for the trash truck to pick while I cut them off. Schweet! He had a 14 ton capacity boom with a huge clam attached. He even loaded some debris for us, and dug out around a couple stumps so I could cut them lower for the stump grinder. They charge $400 a load, for a 35-40 yard truck. Not bad.
Turns out these trees weren't as tall as I thought they were. I'd triangulated them with Mattheck's cool sighting device, and estimated 120....they were more like 105 tops.
Only real concerns were the close quarters and the decayed stems....
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
- Location
- Home of the New Jersey Devils
We were just cleaning and raising them. I had a guy drive by in the far lane and then pull over and start cursing at me up in the tree like he was a Soprano. I was working over the yard at this point and was baffled. He said that I hit his f'in truck. Then he proceeded to kick my cones around.
I talked to him from up in the tree for a moment and then he went away cursing. Then came back and parked closer. He started yelling "Oh!" up to me in the tree. Now I got a bit ticked and told him to wait and I was coming down. I flew down, marched right up to him and asked him what his friggin problem was. He showed me some white scratches on the roof of a black truck and I knew that it had nothing to do with us. I asked him how it was possible when I hand cut each piece and watched them until they hit the grass. I aslo asked him why there wasn't even one stick in the road- it was spotless. I told him to stop cursing at me or I would get "agressive" with him. I told him that I was going to get my camera and take a pic and if he wanted to push this than call the office or the police. He then said "it'll buff out. Your just trying to earn a living" and then shook my hand. That was it. What do you know?
Here's another shot of the trees.
I talked to him from up in the tree for a moment and then he went away cursing. Then came back and parked closer. He started yelling "Oh!" up to me in the tree. Now I got a bit ticked and told him to wait and I was coming down. I flew down, marched right up to him and asked him what his friggin problem was. He showed me some white scratches on the roof of a black truck and I knew that it had nothing to do with us. I asked him how it was possible when I hand cut each piece and watched them until they hit the grass. I aslo asked him why there wasn't even one stick in the road- it was spotless. I told him to stop cursing at me or I would get "agressive" with him. I told him that I was going to get my camera and take a pic and if he wanted to push this than call the office or the police. He then said "it'll buff out. Your just trying to earn a living" and then shook my hand. That was it. What do you know?
Here's another shot of the trees.
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lets here it for the [what???] FACTOR. just enough to irritate you for awhile and have to go back up the tree. i hate stupid people.
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- Lansing, NY
That is an awsome job Roger you and the crew did great, as I said once up in a tree with cars going by waiting to cut " Man what would woody wood pecker do now? ", but I waited.
Roger_Barnett
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Guess we're on a roll. We just scored two more ~110 foot poplar to remove....on a slope above a house and 20-25 vertical feet above and 55-70 feet from where the crane will set up. So we'll need a 100 tonner if I take the tops out first, but something with 180 feet or so of reach if I crane the whole tops....Either way a two day job....They're adjacent to a small landslide which slightly impacted the upper wall of the house. I have photos, just gotta resize 'em....
Finshed a storm job today, craned the last 26 feet of a failed incense cedar, including the stump, from max 60 feet to where Mike was set with the 23 tonner....On another job, we used the GRCS to take a 70 foot hemlock out that had leaned into a fir. We took it in one piece, sucked it back off a western white pine. Ian had a set a retrievable false crotch, but ran the line around nearly 300 degrees of the trunk circumference, so he had to climb to get the line out.
Finshed a storm job today, craned the last 26 feet of a failed incense cedar, including the stump, from max 60 feet to where Mike was set with the 23 tonner....On another job, we used the GRCS to take a 70 foot hemlock out that had leaned into a fir. We took it in one piece, sucked it back off a western white pine. Ian had a set a retrievable false crotch, but ran the line around nearly 300 degrees of the trunk circumference, so he had to climb to get the line out.
Roger_Barnett
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Here's the pics.It is 55-75 feet from the crane center pin to the trees...will need to go back and measure to be sure. The tops of the trees are about 160 feet above the road, so it will probably be cost effective to top them first, then maybe an 80 ton crane wil do the job.
I outlined the two trees in this shot. They're pretty tall, but not very brushy. Behind them, on another property, is a bigger one.
Here, you can see the slide that impacted the house. The main contractors are going to have a truck suction out the appx 90 yards of dirt that slid. They'll be parked down below, similar to a cement pump truck but reverse action.
I outlined the two trees in this shot. They're pretty tall, but not very brushy. Behind them, on another property, is a bigger one.
Here, you can see the slide that impacted the house. The main contractors are going to have a truck suction out the appx 90 yards of dirt that slid. They'll be parked down below, similar to a cement pump truck but reverse action.
Roger_Barnett
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- Seattle, in the PNWet
I went back and looked again, and there's no place to work, so we're gonna have to crane everything. We'll need a 200 or so ton crane.....the job is ours, it sounds like... gotta firm up details with the crane co.... and the prime contractor can deal with the road closure, signage, and permits.
Mark and all, out here most crane companies use steel slings and chokers. I'd prefer heavy duty straps, especially for that soft poplar, so as not to crush the wood too much. Either way, I'll want to use two or three slings on each multi leader top, and maybe even a couple longer slings attached a bit lower down, to spread out the forces. What do you think? I'd like to take the top 60-70 feet or so in one pick, but want to be sure the tie points are strong enough....
Mark and all, out here most crane companies use steel slings and chokers. I'd prefer heavy duty straps, especially for that soft poplar, so as not to crush the wood too much. Either way, I'll want to use two or three slings on each multi leader top, and maybe even a couple longer slings attached a bit lower down, to spread out the forces. What do you think? I'd like to take the top 60-70 feet or so in one pick, but want to be sure the tie points are strong enough....
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- Home of the New Jersey Devils
High-tech fiber dead-eye slings would be a good choice in my eyes. You could marl and then anchor without the concern of tipping or weak wood.
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- Lansing, NY
Well somebody is on a roll with the big removals this year, great work.
Roger_Barnett
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- Seattle, in the PNWet
Good idea, Mark. Thanks.
Nice spider leg sling, Craig.....that'd work, too, if it was all heavy duty line.
Thanks Ox, for the pic, shot just as I was stupidly running the new 42 inch chain into some broken glass.
Nice spider leg sling, Craig.....that'd work, too, if it was all heavy duty line.
Thanks Ox, for the pic, shot just as I was stupidly running the new 42 inch chain into some broken glass.
