Protos

oceans said:
I will say that it took me some time to get used to everything reverberating through the earmuffs when the mesh visor rubs along twigs and what not.

In fact, one of the first trees I ever climbed while wearing the Protos was a real dense and brushy Eastern Red Cedar. It was like living in one of those videos made with a GoPro camera smacking into stuff and making that nearly unbearable sound...or like being reincarnated as a stethoscope and your owner drops you off a steep rocky cliff into Class 5 Rapids. You know...

Not only will you eventually get used to this, but the relatively snag free nature of the design is a welcome trade off. I'll take a bit of reverb over my helmet getting yanked to the side by a rogue shoot.
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I was reading some reviews on TreeStuff for this helmet, and I think several folks mentioned how relatively easy it is to somehow push the muffs off of your ears and that the helmet is somehow designed to allow the muffs to suck up inside of the helmet when not in use.

Is this true, and if so, is it easy enough to do that you can make a cut, flip the muffs off relatively quickly and easily, move about the tree without the noise, and then easily put the muffs back on for the next cut? I guess high production type climbers might have such a short interval between one cut and the next that it makes it not worth doing, but that is not my style. I use a hand saw most of the time for what I do, but if I could have a pair of ear muffs with me all of the time, ready to deploy when needed, and easy to deploy, that would be really nice.

Even if I were actually going to be using a chainsaw quite a bit during a climb, knowing that it is really quick and easy to tuck the muffs out of the way, even if it might only be five minutes until you need them the next time, I would find that a huge selling point.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

Tim
 
monkeylove said:
Tim before you drink the Kool-Aid , there are lots of guys who hate the size and looks of this helmet also. If you get a chance try one on and climb in it a while (just like any other piece of gear YMMV)
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Thanks for the words of caution, monkeylove. This purchase is a long way off for me right now. I'm just always trying to learn, and this thread is full of information I've never heard before. I really appreciate your input.

Tim
 
Yah yah! I read a lot. But I felt a need to post on this thread because I think the Protos is the best helmet ever. I am a HUGE Pfanner fan.
 
TimBr said:
how relatively easy it is to somehow push the muffs off of your ears and that the helmet is somehow designed to allow the muffs to suck up inside of the helmet when not in use.

Tim
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It is easy to push the muffs up out the way but that's not the unique selling point.
The USP is the fact that the muffs are concealed so they can not get caught by twigs and small branches when you're moving through a tight tree.

Additionally:
1: Protos helmet has a higher safety rating than any other Arb helmet.
2: The visor sits against the shell and twigs don't get caught on it.
3: Due to the oversized shape of the wide rim and the design of the cradle, ventilation is better than all other helmets on the market. This is because air only flows up under the helmet and out the top vents.
Unlike other helmets where airflow is trying to move in and out of the vents at the same time. The continual headband under a snug helmet rim allows almost no air to pass.

It was the ventilation reasons that sold the helmet to me. Money well spent.
 
The muffs also hold the helmet in place extremely well. Enough that I find myself leaving them engaged more often than not. It can be warm in the summer, and some of my in-tamable eyebrow hairs deliver sweat into the inside of my glasses, but it's all probably gonna happen anyway and totally worth it.
 
Don't think the missus would approve of me fouling up her panties with my stanky sweat. Come to think of it, I wouldn't approve of it either. That's definitely not something I want to smell when I'm going down there.
 
oceans said:
my in-tamable eyebrow hairs
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X2 the fuzzy fellows above my eyes do tend to fill up with sweat whereas before the protos I used the terry towel helmet liners.
will try the treestuff buffs instead.
haven't been snagged on a twig or had my climb line or throw line get fouled on my lid since I purchased this thing nor have I seen my earmuff go flying across the yard in some time now.
and a bonus for me personally is the amount of migraine head aches have dropped off to almost none since swapping out from my old pacific kevlar hemet to the new planner lid, and now my whole planner look colour co-ordinates,
styling out on site....:D def a big pfan here too.
 
I just recently added the ventilation pants to my ensemble. I also sport their gloves.

I never thought about wearing those head things treestuff gives me too many of under it. I figured I would end up sweating more out than I can carry in water every day.
 
MikePowers321 said:
I also cut them in half for the summer. I have entirely too many. They look like a pile of ladies panties coming out of the dryer.
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Just started doing this the other day. .. Cutting buffs in half, not collecting panties. Different problem, different forum.

They work pretty well. Best to have a few for a real hot day. They soak thru quick.
 
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