Plastic Hook for Chipper Winch

I work for a gov. outfit and I need to keep this winch simple. Although I have lots of experience with knots, winch lines, and heavy duty tree work, my coworkers cannot say the same. I need to keep it simple and replacing a metal hook with a composite hook is really the only way to solve my problem. If I tried to show them a slip timber hitch or a stick toggle, they would walk away and never use it. If someone learns a way to teach old dogs new tricks let me know.
 
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I work for a gov. outfit and I need to keep this winch simple. Although I have lots of experience with knots, winch lines, and heavy duty tree work, my coworkers cannot say the same. I need to keep it simple and replacing a metal hook with a composite hook is really the only way to solve my problem. If I tried to show them a slip timber hitch or a stick toggle, they would walk away and never use it. If someone learns a way to teach old dogs new tricks let me know.

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To train old dogs, one needs a bigger stick. For us the stick works flawlessly. If it gets lost we can always make another in 15 seconds. It's free. Even government workers should be able to take one eye, put it through the other eye and put a stick through eye number two and tighten. I can see where a politician would have trouble with that. Maybe have the office draw up a three page JSA. You could have the wood turning department turn a knob, or a taper to make a marlin spike, after the design department draws it and the engineers sign off on it. Tom, never had a problem getting the stick out after tugging with the winch. Lock Brummel on the big enough eye insure that.
 
evo said:
I lost a tooth due to a steel hook on a chipper winch, it was a stupid accident. Then the dental work had complications, resulting in a root canal and a Ti post to hold the crown.....
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OUch...

Gotta watch out for future problems with the root canals...

Dr Jerry Tennant finds that many health issues originate in the teeth.. short circuits the meridian associated with that tooth

 
HigherGroundArborist said:
I’m putting this link here for anyone else who has an incredibly hard time finding one of these like me.

Northeastern Arborist Supply, New Jersey's Largest Arborist Supply Supplies / Tree Climbing Gear Showroom

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Gap Arborist Supply also carries them.

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Yale Cordage Chook

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Ah, reviving an old thread of mine. How nice! I'll share a bit of an update on this topic:

2 years after this thread started, one of our crews had an accident. Due to miscommunication and workers just generally not working well together, the winch line was left dangling at the fair lead, in free wheel mode. Branch fed in the chipper grabbed the steel hook and sucked the line and hook into the machine. Two knives broke off the drum and were ejected out the chute funnel area. A bit of metal exited near the hydro controls and hit the operators thumb causing a small fracture. Morbark M18r. RM1115Incidenet4.11 (5).jpegRM1115Incidenet4.11 (4).jpegRM1115Incidenet4.11 (9).jpeg

Since then I switched to an aluminum carabiner and a 1/2" ultra sling. I like being able to clip into any of the pockets on the US because I can keep the crab near the wood which allows it be set on the feed table without having the crab bottoming out on the fairlead. Crab also gets pulled in its propper orientation which is plenty strong for the winch. My crew is 1 of 5. My crew is the only one that took off the metal hooks so far. Its '22. Accident happened in '15. Nobody else seemed to care enough to make an operations change.
 
Phil said:
Ah, reviving an old thread of mine. How nice! I'll share a bit of an update on this topic:

2 years after this thread started, one of our crews had an accident. Due to miscommunication and workers just generally not working well together, the winch line was left dangling at the fair lead, in free wheel mode. Branch fed in the chipper grabbed the steel hook and sucked the line and hook into the machine. Two knives broke off the drum and were ejected out the chute funnel area. A bit of metal exited near the hydro controls and hit the operators thumb causing a small fracture. Morbark M18r. View attachment 80432View attachment 80433View attachment 80434

Since then I switched to an aluminum carabiner and a 1/2" ultra sling. I like being able to clip into any of the pockets on the US because I can keep the crab near the wood which allows it be set on the feed table without having the crab bottoming out on the fairlead. Crab also gets pulled in its propper orientation which is plenty strong for the winch. My crew is 1 of 5. My crew is the only one that took off the metal hooks so far. Its '22. Accident happened in '15. Nobody else seemed to care enough to make an operations change.
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Wow! I just don’t understand why a company would ignore a safety feature that is so easy and cheap to correct, especially after an incident that includes an injured worker and could have easily been a fatality!

We have a Bandit 19XPC and our feed wheel is locked until the winch line is stowed. I like this safety feature, but we still use a Chook.
 
HigherGroundArborist said:
Wow! I just don’t understand why a company would ignore a safety feature that is so easy and cheap to correct, especially after an incident that includes an injured worker and could have easily been a fatality!

We have a Bandit 19XPC and our feed wheel is locked until the winch line is stowed. I like this safety feature, but we still use a Chook.
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you have no idea. I had pitched them the chook solution as an option as well and that never materialized to even try and see how we liked it. I finally said fuck it, grabbed an aluminum crab and got my hands on the tenex. I spliced the sling myself. I finally washed my hands of it and focused on the crew I work on. Everyone really took to it.

I did see the bandit safety switch setup at a trade show in the pre covid era. I did like it. Morbark does not have a positive cutout for the winch. The only thing that stops the feed wheels from working while the winch is played out is the reverse bar being in the neutral center position. Which is not great considering a slight bump can engage the wheels again.
 
HigherGroundArborist said:
I’m putting this link here for anyone else who has an incredibly hard time finding one of these like me.

Northeastern Arborist Supply, New Jersey's Largest Arborist Supply Supplies / Tree Climbing Gear Showroom

Who we are:<br /> Northeastern Arborist Supply was established in 1947 as a wholesale arborist supply company and has grown to be the largest Arborist Supply Co. in
store.northeasternarborist.com store.northeasternarborist.com
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This is what we have on all our chippers but I actually prefer a timber hitch.
 
I actually really like my Chook, very simple to use. Splice or tie a longish loop, and feed it through the closed eye at the bottom then around the load, and slip the loop over the two hooks.
 
Phil said:
Ah, reviving an old thread of mine. How nice! I'll share a bit of an update on this topic:

2 years after this thread started, one of our crews had an accident. Due to miscommunication and workers just generally not working well together, the winch line was left dangling at the fair lead, in free wheel mode. Branch fed in the chipper grabbed the steel hook and sucked the line and hook into the machine. Two knives broke off the drum and were ejected out the chute funnel area. A bit of metal exited near the hydro controls and hit the operators thumb causing a small fracture. Morbark M18r. View attachment 80432View attachment 80433View attachment 80434

Since then I switched to an aluminum carabiner and a 1/2" ultra sling. I like being able to clip into any of the pockets on the US because I can keep the crab near the wood which allows it be set on the feed table without having the crab bottoming out on the fairlead. Crab also gets pulled in its propper orientation which is plenty strong for the winch. My crew is 1 of 5. My crew is the only one that took off the metal hooks so far. Its '22. Accident happened in '15. Nobody else seemed to care enough to make an operations change.
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Did that also damage the bed knive, drum or drum housing?
 
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