pat lacey

[evo]

Thank you. You too. We've got a big year coming with lots of ash trees dying and who knows what's going to happen to the trees from spotted lanternfly.

I've never used a sizwheel and understand the concept that longer hinge fibers on the front of the hinge (beyond the height of the apex where two kerfs meet) have more flex and therefore the ability to spread the force out more evenly over the full width of the hinge (front to back), rather than having a "static hinge" which has the tendency to isolate the most force on the fibers at the back of the hinge, which then just get transferred forward (but still isolated) as the back fibers tear.

It looks like Pat used the sizwheel to help keep the left side of the hinge stronger than the right. This will keep the tree from going right. then he completely blew out the far (right) side of the hinge for either the same reason or because his bar was short and he couldn't reach the far side of the tree well for the steep hill. Or some combination of both. Either way, he believed he didn't need the hinge fibers on the far right corner of the hinge. Pat has the skill to have kept those fibers intact if they were needed.

That complete removal of fibers on one side of the hinge is called a swing Dutchman in Dent's book, "Professional Timber Falling". As we've been through before, sometime after the publication of this book, Dent came to believe that the many forms of the swing Dutchman (this is just one of the possible options that involve removal of the side of the hinge) was too unreliable to teach. I would argue once again that the technique still has value or Dent would not have suggested using it in the first place. And just because it is too unreliable to teach does not mean that an exploration of the many factors that influence its ability to hold against side weight won't yield some understanding of the potential and limitations of the cut.

One thing we can agree on is that if the tree starts to settle on the kerf cut, that would induce even more side lean which would be counterproductive. I've seen trees settle and begin to lean more just from cutting a notch, so the size, weight, lean, species, condition, and other factors are going to make a difference in what it takes to avoid side settling.

I wonder what pat would think of all your criticisms of the technique when I showed it. You got ugly and mighty righteous. Now you're like hey, if Pat does it, it's cool. That was predictable...

Picking a fight again aye?

 

[Daniel]

Just speaking the truth...

How's your wife doing?
I have a buddy going through it now. he had 8 co-infections and some of the highest titers ever measured. He knows a ton about Lyme if you ever want to talk to him let me know.

 

[evo]

Just speaking the truth...

How's your wife doing?
I have a buddy going through it now. he had 8 co-infections and some of the highest titers ever measured. He knows a ton about Lyme if you ever want to talk to him let me know.

It’s been two steps forward on step back, most days. Some days it’s two steps back.
Her lead levels are high so she is about to go through heavy metal detox. There is some huge component with her cycle, about two weeks in she starts tanking until about halfway through menstruation.
A friend who had Lyme, and a few different forms of cancer told me that Lyme is harder! I can see some truth to this.
It’s been a hard emotional ride, few folks around here know what Lyme is like. The social aspect to it is weird, and sad. Some very well intentioned loving friends don’t quite get the brain fog, mental health, confusion side of it. A few weeks ago my wife was talking to two friends, one of which was sick (flu or what not), so Sumer spent the whole morning and into the lunch hour making a huge pot of some sort of meaty soup.. turned out it was for the wrong friend, the sick friend is vegetarian, so she came back and made a veggie soup, but then there was another hang up. Anyway the sick friend never got their soup due to hurt feelings of the expectation of having food on the way and being sick and hungry, and would have made different arrangements if there was a delay..
What these folks never saw was all he effort Sumer put into to this as she wasn’t doing well herself. They didn’t understand the confusion, the brain fog, and expected a normal functional interaction.

Our house is certainly nuts, between myself and our 11 year old son we are ADHD as shit! Sumer with Lyme, I think our two year old is the sanest of us all!

 

[Daniel]

That's not easy. Few people that haven't been there have the compassion and empathy to understand. Sounds like you do. Have you done the parasite meds. Mebendazole is pricey here but cheaper in Canada and Mexico or go with fenbendazole. I'd couple enzymes with the anti-biotics in addition. There are protocols developed by the cancer community. I;ve also heard good things about malaria drugs for Lyme.

Surviving Terminal Cancer

In my own case, I would likely be dead if I had followed the advice of my oncologist. ... I am convinced I would not have survived had I not pursued "unproven" treatments in addition to the standard treatments I received. Oncologists routinely oppose the use of "unproven" treatments, an...

cancerpatientfreedom.com

 

[evo]

That's not easy. Few people that haven't been there have the compassion and empathy to understand. Sounds like you do. Have you done the parasite meds. Mebendazole is pricey here but cheaper in Canada and Mexico or go with fenbendazole. I'd couple enzymes with the anti-biotics in addition. There are protocols developed by the cancer community. I;ve also heard good things about malaria drugs for Lyme.

Surviving Terminal Cancer

In my own case, I would likely be dead if I had followed the advice of my oncologist. ... I am convinced I would not have survived had I not pursued "unproven" treatments in addition to the standard treatments I received. Oncologists routinely oppose the use of "unproven" treatments, an...

cancerpatientfreedom.com

Not quite yet, still more testing and taking things one step at a time. As @rico mentioned it’s one layer of the onion at a time, and a marathon vs a sprint

 

[Daniel]

I like the shotgun approach and of course, finding the root cause. There are a lot of holistic medical people talking about getting any root canal teeth removed, as they can be sources of latent infections, parasites will house the offending bacteria to shield them from antibiotics etc. The thing that finally worked for me was 32 oz carrot juice and 4-7 oz wheatgrass juice 5-6x week with colloidal silver. One thing for sure is that diet is crucial. I became very sensitive to MSG which was in so many foods it became hard to identify until I ate some Chinese food and thought I was going to die.

 

[rico]

It’s been two steps forward on step back, most days. Some days it’s two steps back.
Her lead levels are high so she is about to go through heavy metal detox. There is some huge component with her cycle, about two weeks in she starts tanking until about halfway through menstruation.
A friend who had Lyme, and a few different forms of cancer told me that Lyme is harder! I can see some truth to this.
It’s been a hard emotional ride, few folks around here know what Lyme is like. The social aspect to it is weird, and sad. Some very well intentioned loving friends don’t quite get the brain fog, mental health, confusion side of it. A few weeks ago my wife was talking to two friends, one of which was sick (flu or what not), so Sumer spent the whole morning and into the lunch hour making a huge pot of some sort of meaty soup.. turned out it was for the wrong friend, the sick friend is vegetarian, so she came back and made a veggie soup, but then there was another hang up. Anyway the sick friend never got their soup due to hurt feelings of the expectation of having food on the way and being sick and hungry, and would have made different arrangements if there was a delay..
What these folks never saw was all he effort Sumer put into to this as she wasn’t doing well herself. They didn’t understand the confusion, the brain fog, and expected a normal functional interaction.

Our house is certainly nuts, between myself and our 11 year old son we are ADHD as shit! Sumer with Lyme, I think our two year old is the sanest of us all!

Lyme uses heavy metals to its advantage and as part of its defense mechanisms... Most Lymies also have serious methylation issue which willl make it more difficult for them to deal with toxins such as heavy metals. The end result is the Lymies tend to have high levels of various heavy metals.... The good news is that for many, including myself, our metal levels come down as we lower our bacterial load. Getting Sumer's methylation pathways opened up will also have a profound effect, and doing some targeted metal detox is a very good idea....A good rule of thumb for most Lymies is to do 3-4 times more detox than treating of the bugs....Slow and steady wins the race here bro, but you already know that......Say hey to Sumer for me.......

 

[rico]

I like the shotgun approach and of course, finding the root cause. There are a lot of holistic medical people talking about getting any root canal teeth removed, as they can be sources of latent infections, parasites will house the offending bacteria to shield them from antibiotics etc. The thing that finally worked for me was 32 oz carrot juice and 4-7 oz wheatgrass juice 5-6x week with colloidal silver. One thing for sure is that diet is crucial. I became very sensitive to MSG which was in so many foods it became hard to identify until I ate some Chinese food and thought I was going to die.

Your advice on treating Lyme is about as on point as "the intentional barberchair" Daniel... Carrot and wheatgrass juice? Avoiding Chinese food? Downright dangerous nonsense.. None of these things is going to kill a single Borrelia spirochete.

Your suggestion of the "shotgun" approach just shows how truly uninformed you are concerning the complexities of treating lyme. A "shotgun approach is a very common mistake among lyme noobies which does nothing more than overwhelm their detox pathways, which in turn makes them more inflamed, thus making them more "sick"