Outside the box treatment

[KevinS]

Tea tree oil and oil of cinnamon are homiopathic treatments for biological issues on people.

I was asked if these treatments could be used on black knot?

I said it would likely be a stronger dose but it likely wouldn't hurt anything to try it. Wondering if anyone had any papers, experience, etc. with this. I know there is no cure for black knot and I've told them that but they brought this up.

 

[JontreeHI]

What do you mean by biological issues?
Thanks

 

[Daniel]

tea tree is excellent on skin and nail fungus. Mix with DMSO as a penetrating agent... Cinnamon is known as a treatment for parasites.. probably has many other uses.. neither are homepathic though. That is a different modality

 

[Mangoes]

Hey Kevin

In Ontario you cant commercially apply (service in exchange for compensation) anything that isn't registered with the PMRA or with Ontario's MOE PEPSIS registration database.
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/ahc-asc/branch-dirgen/pmra-arla/index-eng.php
http://pr-rp.hc-sc.gc.ca/ls-re/index-eng.php
https://www.lrcsde.lrc.gov.on.ca/PCDWeb/home.action

Example -

Ontario Pesticide Ban – PMRA – Neem Oil will be taken off Store Shelves Dec 2012

Neem Oil Next Off Shelves

While neem oil has been sold as a natural pesticide in the U.S. and other countries, it is not a registered pesticide in Canada and cannot be sold as such. Instead, garden and plant products containing neem oil have been marketed as "leaf shine" formulas in this country.

Explains Martin Tomkin, Director General (Compliance, Lab Services, and Regional Operations), PMRA "requires that all neem-based products manufactured, imported, sold, promoted, and or used in Canada for direct or indirect pest control purposes must be registered under the Pest Control Products Act (PCPA). This includes all products that contain neem oil and / or the active ingredient azadirachtin (e.g. leaf shine products)."

Tomkin goes on to say that after December 31, 2012, the PMRA will begin to take appropriate enforcement measures relating to the importation, distribution, sale or advertising for sale, of unregistered neem-based products.

There is opportunity for effective preservation & enhancement of trees with these 'outside-the-box' solutions. However; they have to comply with procedural protocols for development, testing, and supply chain delivery.

Additionally; the scientific method requires Hypothosis -> Deduction -> Prediction -> Observation -> Test Predictions then Induction.

Therefore by what merit do we 'sell' the solution to the consumer?

I like the anecdotal evidence of many organic solutions out there, but due to a lack of supporting efficacy evidence, cannot add to our portfolio. I am wary to sell "snake-oil" to a customer, and they are snake-oil without supporting evidence. (Compost Tea, Neem Oil, Garlic Oil, etc, etc)

 

[KevinS]

Tea tree oil on people has cleared different rashes, infections etc.
I'm no expert on this so I can't speak on its uses as a whole.

Mangoes that was great thanks for that bit. I've never recommended any such treatment to a client they approached me with the idea, but I definitely understand your stance.

 

[treevet]

wonder how Canada will handle Ebola when it arrives there, not if but when.

 

[KevinS]

wonder how Canada will handle Ebola when it arrives there, not if but when.

I don't think with tea tree oil that's for sure. The news is saying we're producing some good meds off getting tested now.
But time will tell,I'm hoping for health and happiness for everyone and there families on the buzz.

 

[guymayor]

I use a lot of off-label material, but i don't sell it as a pesticide. Keep the claims real and it's not snake oil.
Tea tree oil is an effective repellent, but I don't sell it as an insecticide. Etc.

Re the scientific method, even Isaac Newton saw its limitations. Works much better for physical sciences than natural sciences. Many other paths to knowledge.