One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for crane

[theXman]

i will now send my brother an e-mail and ask him. thanks.

 

[classictruckman]

Do you really use electric chainsaws? Or were you just kidding?

 

[theXman]

I've never touched an electric chainsaw. yup, kidding.

Stihl for real.

 

[Jamin_Mayer]

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hey NickfromWI, I'm sure you have the info, what's the tensile of this 1 inch amsteel? someone on the buzz thought 109,000 lbs.

Is this right?

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I don't want to steal Nick's thunder here, but you're right. Here is their chart. Samson.

 

[BostonBull]

the reel is the communication cable, for the anti two block.

we use Amsteel 12 in our chipper winches, its great!

Amsteel as a crane cable is expensive, and not great for abrasion compared to wire rope.....IMO.

Whats the benefit you see in using it on a crane cable set-up?

 

[allmark]

I would also think it might not wrap on the drum correctly due to the lack of stiffness. I dont know??

 

[treedimensional]

Excessive Grease would also be an issue.

 

[TiersonB]

One small benefit would be that the Amsteel weighs much less than steel. I guess it would save about 200 lbs on some picks where the boom was extended 125'....not much of a benefit really. There are electrical advantages if you were doing work near conductors, but there's a lot of drawbacks to using Amsteel on a crane.

You wouldn't have to lubricate it, but I think it would last for less time than a wire rope that was never lubricated.

I would think that UV rays break it down. There's something else to consider against using it on a crane winch line.

One thing that would be great is to tie all your old worn out climbing lines together with knots and use that as your winch line. Imagine the cost savings from re-using that old worn out rope!

 

[chris_girard]

How's the knotting capability with the Amsteel, do they slip more readily than Stable Braid?

 

[Jamin_Mayer]

Nop!

I use 1/2" Amsteel Blue for all of my crane chokers and I don't see any slippage (like Samson says may occur). I think brand new stuff could slip slightly (maybe 1/4"). But, that is not alarming.

But when you start to use it on trees, the bark makes it fuzzy and the slippage stops. I have been monitoring this for about 6 months now.

On the contrary, it can get so fuzzy that saw dust sticks to it like Velcro.

This actually makes it more difficult to untie.

I only use a running bowline with this stuff. And I make sure the knot is dressed nicely. If it isn't, it will be harder to untie after a load is on it.

I have experimented with other knots and they are a pain to untie.

 

[chris_girard]

Thanks for the info Jamin, that's what I was looking for.

 

[NeTree]

Re: One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for c

FWIW, Nick has done a bunch of splicing work for me, and he hasn't done me wrong, ever.

 

[theXman]

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Any idea what the orange reel on the side of the boom is?

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He finally replied,"It's the extension cord for operating electrical tools while in the basket".

which he has never used since he has purchased the crane.

 

[theXman]

I do feel it slips a bit and you have to anticipate that.

It does get fuzzy and sawdust sticks like crazy.

I am looking for a good cover for it because if a little sharp object touches it, it pulls it apart and it's extremely hard to get it back into the weave.

very loose and snags everything.

strong as shi_ though.

 

[Jamin_Mayer]

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very loose and snags everything.

strong as shi_ though.

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Yep! It snags on saw teeth, saw dogs, climb spikes, twigs, coarse bark, Velco on the spikes, my polyester shirt, etc...

And at times it is annoying.

But, like David said, it is very strong rope.

 

[theXman]

Re: One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for c

here is a fat silver maple we did with the same slings:

Start:

 

[theXman]

Re: One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for c

bad leader over the house roof. new $70,000 roof so they said.

 

[theXman]

Re: One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for c

I'll jump to the fat picks.... can post others later if you care..

 

[theXman]

Re: One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for c

my idea to insure the one sling doesn't come off. I come up with new crap every day, came up with this one this day. kinda neat I think.

 

[theXman]

Re: One inch Amsteel that NickfromWI spliced for c

spider leg pick, coming off smooth as always...