North American Tree Climbing Championship

i feel ya. i'm just really happy we are getting a north american tcc put together. it really will be more beneficial to us all in the long run. plus how bad azz is it going to be to compete with the mark and jared!
 
This is one more opinion.

In the last couple of years the Southern Chapter has lost a step or two. Think about it, Little Rock and Shreveport are on the outskirts of the Chapter, that makes travel difficult. Also our economic crisis in the last couple of years has played a huge factor in whether or not I attend. I know that I just couldn't find the money to make it when gas was four dollars a gallon and the climb over six hours away.

But neither of those factors are like this one. The southern chapter is being undermined by the smaller chapters such as the CAA. I love the CAA climbs but I couldn't help but notice how it seems like all the attention gets paid to its climbing comp instead of the Southern's. Who ever chairs the Southern Chapter Climb, needs to have that as their foremost project. Take for instance the prizes, the CAA is overloaded with cash and prizes yet for some reason the Southern Chapter has gotten more and more minimal.

Also last year in Concord, NC the climb was held a day earlier than scheduled due to a rain forecast. Many people weren't prepared at all. Many friends and family members missed the event, along with sponsors who give their time and money in order to get a little advertisement out of the deal. Also the rain never came!

Now all of a sudden there is another climb running parallel with the Southern's? This is really going to kill publicity. How is that fair to the Southern at all?

Honestly this is all very confusing to me really. I simply just want the Southern to be the best chapter it can be. I feel that if it continues to be pushed to the wayside, then thats what will continue happening to it.
 
That's a really uninformed post, B.J.

The Southern Chapter chair doesn't have a whole lot of say when it comes to prizes and marketing of the event.

This past year when I made the decision to move the event to Saturday because of severe thunderstorms forecast on Sunday, I still think I made the right call. Tornadoes touched down in the area around 2 pm in the area, and golf ball sized hail fell in Concord by 5 pm. I suggest you step up and run the show and then make comments about how someone else does it.

The forecast called for the rain to begin at 7 am Sunday morning, all the way up till 5 pm on Saturday. When the rain didn't come till after noon on Sunday, that's when all of the Monday morning quarterbacks came out of the woodwork.

I'm done with the Southern Chapter. Too much sh*t for no pay.

SZ
 
Also, the southern chapter chair usually has a real job that pays real bills, even in his economic crisis. Also there is no budget given to the chair. Also there is no thanks given to the chair for making chicken wings out of chicken sh*t. Also, climbers who show up once a year to an event think they are entitled to whatever their ideal TCC is, regardless of outside influences.

You want to make things change? Quit you bitcching and lend a hand, instead of showing up late for gear check cause you had to work late.

SZ
 
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Also there is no thanks given to the chair for making chicken wings out of chicken sh*t. Also, climbers who show up once a year to an event think they are entitled to whatever their ideal TCC is, regardless of outside influences.

You want to make things change? Quit you bitcching and lend a hand, instead of showing up late for gear check cause you had to work late.

SZ

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Amen Stephan!

Been Chairing the IL TCC for 10 years. A pat on the back is all I ask for.
Unless you've put together a Chapter TCC, you have NO idea of what it takes, NONE... Being in charge of competitor, judges, techs and spectator safety is a huge responsibility.
It takes dozens of fone calls and emails, numerous hours of planning, numerous hours of your own time, then people commit and don't show up, putting a damper on the TCC. There are always gonna be climber's who complain.
Instead of complaining, make a difference. DO SOMETHING!
 
Wow! A little bitter are we? I simply had an opinion and wanted to express it. I didn't say u were doing a bad job. I am only saying it is a conflict of interest to chair both. Obviously you are upset about my opinion. Thats just too bad.


One thing is for sure, I am not the only person who feels this way and it sucks for my chapter!

I never meant to piss anyone off, I simply wanted to express my opinion and show that there are opposing views for both sides. If you want to make inflammatory statements Stephen and TRY to piss people off, then go ahead, but it will get u no where.

ps- no one has ever got paid for their help in Chapter work. Thats why they call it volunteering
 
You are entitled to your opinion. But if you don't like the way your chapter comp is being run, step up and volunteer. Showing up to climb is easy compared to organizing and running a good TCC, and yes I have done both.
 
I'm not saying your opinion is not valid, just think you don't know the full story and the very real work that goes into running a Chapter TCC.

I helped out with the Southern Chapter because I agreed with your opinion that we could do better. After working as TCC chair for two years, I found that there is a reason the southern chapter TCC is lacking.

I'm bitter because you of all people should have access to information that would help you form a more complete opinion of the situation.

The CAA TCC was awesome because we had a dozen key people putting in the time necessary to pull off a world class TCC. The CAA TCC has nothing to do with the southern chapter TCC.

I implore you to approach the Southern Chapter and ask if you can help get the TCC back on track, and I wish you good luck with that.

SZ
 
When the Southern TCC was in Shreveport a there were a number of Texas arbos that made the drive east to help out. I had a fun weekend!

I have deaf ears for complaints and whining about volunteer staffed events. There is always a need for more help. If prizes and booty are what make a TCC then get onboard the planning committee and start making calls. You'll learn to be a better sales rep in the mean time and make a whole new circle of friends.

The TCC is a free market just like business. If one entity isn't able to provide a desirable service or product then another entity can, does and will step up to fill the void.

Remember this:

If it's to be it's up to me.
 
For the record I do think the Southern Chapter climbers are getting shafted in this North American TCC. Last year in Concord we had over 30 climbers from the Southern Chapter competing. To cap Southern Chapter climbers to 20 is flawed.

SZ
 
yes it is. to limit one climber per company is flawed, for the sake of growth and a new north american tcc...... i think we can suffer through this first year. ya now i still haven't met one climber from mississippi or alabama! the mississippi guys were supposed to be organizing a mississippi tcc i was going to help them organize but i don't think they realized how much work went into a tcc.
 
BJ I apologize for my tone and calling you out on coming to gear check late.

You have legitimate points, but I took it personally. I tried to put on a good TCC in Concord, but weather and low sponsorship/prizes definitely put a crimp in things.

I have much to work on, I appreciate your comments.

SZ
 
No worries at all! I wasn't upset about that man. It was insignificant.

I too did not mean to anger anyone or hurt feelings. And honestly I didn't come across right either. I sounded like I was pointing the finger at you when I didn't mean to. It just kind of came out that way. I also didn't want my focus to be about prizes or the rain. When I go to a comp, the prizes are not at all why I am there. I only was making an opposing view. I know its rough trying to put one of those together, I watched my friends and family do it since I was in middle school. And I'm sorry if I was over critical. It is easy to talk first and think later, I do it frequently. Thanks, though for taking my input into consideration.

And actually you made me think a little Stephan. Someday I do plan on volunteering, just right now I enjoy competing. Even when I am done competing, I will still be around to enjoy the atmosphere of friendship and comradarie that entails with every TCC. Thats really what its all about. Sorry if my focus was temporarily elsewhere

Also let me reiterate that I immensely enjoy the CAA climbs. I wasn't trying to dog u guys out either. Lets use this conversation as a tool to make all future TCCs better regardless of chapter.

Thats all i got for now lol
 
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You are entitled to your opinion. But if you don't like the way your chapter comp is being run, step up and volunteer. Showing up to climb is easy compared to organizing and running a good TCC, and yes I have done both.

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I volunteered for quite a while before I ever decided to climb in a TCC.

I will always be involved even after I retire from competitive climbing. I love it!
 
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