New Urban Tree Care reality show on Nat Geo
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Bixler
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- Nevada City, CA
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Watched about 20 minutes. I don't think it will last long. I am going to call NG and express my opinion about this waste of time show.
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Hahahaha yeah, just tell them you are Zale from the The Buzz
Watched about 20 minutes. I don't think it will last long. I am going to call NG and express my opinion about this waste of time show.
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Hahahaha yeah, just tell them you are Zale from the The Buzz
Bixler
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- Nevada City, CA
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jeff, the general public is not as stupid as the reality show producers think they are.
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Wrong, they are really that stupid.
jeff, the general public is not as stupid as the reality show producers think they are.
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Wrong, they are really that stupid.
Bixler
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- Nevada City, CA
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Unfortunately guys, I think all of us are missing the real point. We ALL know guys just like this in every one of our markets. In fact, I would say, as a whole (let me repeat that- as a whole), the show does represent the "average" tree guy. Yes, I too, find the show repulsive, aggravating, and full of staged "jackass" events. But how many companies in your town (or mine) truly impress you? Admittedly, we on treebuzz see things a bit differently and really take our craft seriously, but the "average" tree guy ended up here due to a lay off at the factory or a pink slip. It isn't his calling, his passion, or his first choice. It's just a paycheck. Yes, we here are different (Thank Goodness!) but out there in the masses, what you see is what you get. And unfortunately in this day of rampant narcissism and a desire for "fame", more folks than not are eagerly willing to make complete jackasses out of themselves to "get on TV". Now, that being said, possibly take a different perspective. If potential costumers see this idiot show and develop their expectations of "tree work" based on it, just think how "over the top" impressed they'll be when you show up with your two guys, professionalism, and craft and just safely get it done!
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Wheel loader, you have it bang on.
Unfortunately guys, I think all of us are missing the real point. We ALL know guys just like this in every one of our markets. In fact, I would say, as a whole (let me repeat that- as a whole), the show does represent the "average" tree guy. Yes, I too, find the show repulsive, aggravating, and full of staged "jackass" events. But how many companies in your town (or mine) truly impress you? Admittedly, we on treebuzz see things a bit differently and really take our craft seriously, but the "average" tree guy ended up here due to a lay off at the factory or a pink slip. It isn't his calling, his passion, or his first choice. It's just a paycheck. Yes, we here are different (Thank Goodness!) but out there in the masses, what you see is what you get. And unfortunately in this day of rampant narcissism and a desire for "fame", more folks than not are eagerly willing to make complete jackasses out of themselves to "get on TV". Now, that being said, possibly take a different perspective. If potential costumers see this idiot show and develop their expectations of "tree work" based on it, just think how "over the top" impressed they'll be when you show up with your two guys, professionalism, and craft and just safely get it done!
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Wheel loader, you have it bang on.
Bixler
Participating member
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- Nevada City, CA
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Unfortunately guys, I think all of us are missing the real point. We ALL know guys just like this in every one of our markets. In fact, I would say, as a whole (let me repeat that- as a whole), the show does represent the "average" tree guy. Yes, I too, find the show repulsive, aggravating, and full of staged "jackass" events. But how many companies in your town (or mine) truly impress you? Admittedly, we on treebuzz see things a bit differently and really take our craft seriously, but the "average" tree guy ended up here due to a lay off at the factory or a pink slip. It isn't his calling, his passion, or his first choice. It's just a paycheck. Yes, we here are different (Thank Goodness!) but out there in the masses, what you see is what you get. And unfortunately in this day of rampant narcissism and a desire for "fame", more folks than not are eagerly willing to make complete jackasses out of themselves to "get on TV". Now, that being said, possibly take a different perspective. If potential costumers see this idiot show and develop their expectations of "tree work" based on it, just think how "over the top" impressed they'll be when you show up with your two guys, professionalism, and craft and just safely get it done!
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That's a good point. You are right, most of the companies around me are like this.
Hmm, made me think...
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Good to see the light go off for you. I was about to send u a virus.
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Unfortunately guys, I think all of us are missing the real point. We ALL know guys just like this in every one of our markets. In fact, I would say, as a whole (let me repeat that- as a whole), the show does represent the "average" tree guy. Yes, I too, find the show repulsive, aggravating, and full of staged "jackass" events. But how many companies in your town (or mine) truly impress you? Admittedly, we on treebuzz see things a bit differently and really take our craft seriously, but the "average" tree guy ended up here due to a lay off at the factory or a pink slip. It isn't his calling, his passion, or his first choice. It's just a paycheck. Yes, we here are different (Thank Goodness!) but out there in the masses, what you see is what you get. And unfortunately in this day of rampant narcissism and a desire for "fame", more folks than not are eagerly willing to make complete jackasses out of themselves to "get on TV". Now, that being said, possibly take a different perspective. If potential costumers see this idiot show and develop their expectations of "tree work" based on it, just think how "over the top" impressed they'll be when you show up with your two guys, professionalism, and craft and just safely get it done!
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That's a good point. You are right, most of the companies around me are like this.
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Good to see the light go off for you. I was about to send u a virus.
Bixler
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- Nevada City, CA
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Staged or not, this show just flat out pissed me off.The only company that came out of this with a reputation intact was TreeTech. All Seasons is a complete clown show and the other companies evidently have no knowledge of safety standards.They must have set a record on how many drop start, one handing , minimum approach distance,chaps, two points of attachment, eye protection, hearing protection violations ,etc. can be shown in an episode. I was expecting a guest appearance from Nosak . The log on the car was obviously staged and I am sure that they thought it was good drama but to pendulum swing a big log towards and under those wires was idiotic. Miss that moneyshot and you just pulled down the friggin primaries down on that neighborhood, luckily they only slapped the lines around after hitting the comm and cable wires with the rope.
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Kelly, are you Banjo's wife? Possibly related to him?
Staged or not, this show just flat out pissed me off.The only company that came out of this with a reputation intact was TreeTech. All Seasons is a complete clown show and the other companies evidently have no knowledge of safety standards.They must have set a record on how many drop start, one handing , minimum approach distance,chaps, two points of attachment, eye protection, hearing protection violations ,etc. can be shown in an episode. I was expecting a guest appearance from Nosak . The log on the car was obviously staged and I am sure that they thought it was good drama but to pendulum swing a big log towards and under those wires was idiotic. Miss that moneyshot and you just pulled down the friggin primaries down on that neighborhood, luckily they only slapped the lines around after hitting the comm and cable wires with the rope.
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Kelly, are you Banjo's wife? Possibly related to him?
Negative on Banjo's wife. Sporting all the wrong equipment for wifely duties. Not related as far as I know .
Bixler
Participating member
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- Nevada City, CA
My bad, just a hunch, sorry KG.
No Problem , thanks for the laugh
- Location
- Billerica, MA
I guess it's great for us. This week I have had two repeat customers and one new customer point out how we don't do it like those clowns on the tv show. "Who would ever hire one of those companies after seeing the show?"
Staged or not it doesn't put a favorable light on the compaines on the show, but by lowering the public`s expectation, it makes it easier for the rest of us to impress of customers
Staged or not it doesn't put a favorable light on the compaines on the show, but by lowering the public`s expectation, it makes it easier for the rest of us to impress of customers
- Location
- central texas
While I do agree with Wheelloader that the worst of these guys (I'd say all season and american) admittedly do represent how the majority of tree co's operate, and that the show may benefit better co's by making us look good by comparison (as evidenced by MarquisTree's experience) I agree with Bixler and KellyG even more:
1) The vast majority of consumers are probably not smart enough to know that there are better co's out there (which I know is true based on how many complete morons - and thieves- have been in business locally for many years). For a huge percentage of viewers it will reinforce their belief that this is how all tree services operate.
2) My real issue with this is that National Geographic, who I have always held up as an honest provider of nature programming, would stoop so low to get ratings. If they wanted to find and film the worst of the worst honestly doing incredibly stupid stuff, fine. But to intentionally stage such acts, especially like KellyG said, when they are really dangerous acts, is more like what I'd expect from MTV. And it makes me wonder <u>how many of their other programs over the years have been fake.</u>
And that is exactly what I plan to tell them. Their number is 202-912-6500, and their email is feedback@natgeotv.com.
1) The vast majority of consumers are probably not smart enough to know that there are better co's out there (which I know is true based on how many complete morons - and thieves- have been in business locally for many years). For a huge percentage of viewers it will reinforce their belief that this is how all tree services operate.
2) My real issue with this is that National Geographic, who I have always held up as an honest provider of nature programming, would stoop so low to get ratings. If they wanted to find and film the worst of the worst honestly doing incredibly stupid stuff, fine. But to intentionally stage such acts, especially like KellyG said, when they are really dangerous acts, is more like what I'd expect from MTV. And it makes me wonder <u>how many of their other programs over the years have been fake.</u>
And that is exactly what I plan to tell them. Their number is 202-912-6500, and their email is feedback@natgeotv.com.
treehumper
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- Ridgefield, NJ
I had the good fortune of having a company like these guys work right next door to us with our two biggest clients watching.
A double stemmed oak, each about 40"DBH, was compromised. Earlier in the year we had advised the owner of the hazard and that it should be removed before it failed. She thanked us but, never called. That fall it failed and landed on another neighbors home. We were hired to remove the remaining half that hung over our client's property while another company was hired to remove the portion now atop and within the neighbor's home. Apparently, they couldn't afford shirts, none of them had one on, but could pay for plenty of tattoos.
What ensued was a textbook example of how not to and how to do tree work safely and professionally. Our clients (one who recorded the events of the day) sang our praises and commented on the disparity between the us and them. This forever cemented our relationship with both of them.
A double stemmed oak, each about 40"DBH, was compromised. Earlier in the year we had advised the owner of the hazard and that it should be removed before it failed. She thanked us but, never called. That fall it failed and landed on another neighbors home. We were hired to remove the remaining half that hung over our client's property while another company was hired to remove the portion now atop and within the neighbor's home. Apparently, they couldn't afford shirts, none of them had one on, but could pay for plenty of tattoos.
What ensued was a textbook example of how not to and how to do tree work safely and professionally. Our clients (one who recorded the events of the day) sang our praises and commented on the disparity between the us and them. This forever cemented our relationship with both of them.
Mick Dempsey!
Participating member
Beats me why people get their knickers in a twist about these things,
Of course they're going to have some Yahoos, mess ups and suchlike it's TV.
If people want their trees trimmed or felled they're not going to start calling other trades because of this programme.
Of course they're going to have some Yahoos, mess ups and suchlike it's TV.
If people want their trees trimmed or felled they're not going to start calling other trades because of this programme.
I was talking to my uncle in Wisconsin while he was getting ready to watch it. I've only heard of it and haven't seen it yet. He saw the 1st two episodes and was getting ready to watch the 3rd. He told me to be safe and I was glad there was finally a show to shed some light on what I do for a living. THEN I WATCHED IT ON DEMAND. When my I see my uncle this Saturday I must clarify the difference. Unfortunately for every 1 good company there are 50 like these guys. Maybe they should find a crew of crack heads to follow around.
I watched two episodes now too. It was horrible. Literally every minutes there was something that I hated seeing. Most of my disgust was the how unreal it all was, pretty much everything was staged and set up. So fake! Only an idiot could enjoy it. Lots and lots of Osha violations. I started to remember a list of what I saw wrong or didn't like while watching the first one, but it got so long that it blew my mind. Noticed the new pants, ropes and tools for the show too. If they wanted to look good, why add all the drama and near accidents? It makes them all look like idiots. even new lowering devices that they obviously didn't know how to use correctly, looks like they were used to a porta-wrap before. I absolutely HATE this show. I will watch one more, the car smashing one, then I will promise to never watch another one. Just like I did with AX men.
chris_girard
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- Gilmanton, N.H.
I haven’t seen the show and have no intentions of even watching one episode after reading the posts here. From the sounds of it, this show is a lot like NatGeo’s “Rock Stars” show that was aired last season and featured High Angle Rope Techs doing rock scaling work.
The company doing the climbing for “Rock Stars” was Janod, Inc., who is the industry leader in rock slope remediation work. They had a contract with National Geographic Channel and Echo Entertainment, Inc. who was the production company behind the show.
The contract granted Echo’s film crews access to Janod’s jobsites, but also had a clause in it stating that Janod had the right to first air and edit out any material that would portray them in a negative light. Well, after seeing the material that Echo provided to NatGeo to put on the air, they tried to get the show pulled and also sued for breach of contract. NatGeo went ahead and aired the show (which sucked, as I saw it and also know about rock slope work), Janod sued and lost when the judge threw the case out of court for lack of jurisdiction…and apparently NatGeo is doing the same thing now with tree care workers.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, but to make a long story short, maybe the tree company OWNERS are trying to do the same thing as Janod did, but are fighting a losing battle with the Network? I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I don’t know the background to the production rights of this particular show.
The company doing the climbing for “Rock Stars” was Janod, Inc., who is the industry leader in rock slope remediation work. They had a contract with National Geographic Channel and Echo Entertainment, Inc. who was the production company behind the show.
The contract granted Echo’s film crews access to Janod’s jobsites, but also had a clause in it stating that Janod had the right to first air and edit out any material that would portray them in a negative light. Well, after seeing the material that Echo provided to NatGeo to put on the air, they tried to get the show pulled and also sued for breach of contract. NatGeo went ahead and aired the show (which sucked, as I saw it and also know about rock slope work), Janod sued and lost when the judge threw the case out of court for lack of jurisdiction…and apparently NatGeo is doing the same thing now with tree care workers.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, but to make a long story short, maybe the tree company OWNERS are trying to do the same thing as Janod did, but are fighting a losing battle with the Network? I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I don’t know the background to the production rights of this particular show.
boreality
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- boreal forest
How about an "Arborist Bachelor" show. Put them in a remote fishing camp with about 20 beautiful girls competing for the attention of a below average looking arborist. Which beauty will win the big catch.
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I haven’t seen the show and have no intentions of even watching one episode after reading the posts here. From the sounds of it, this show is a lot like NatGeo’s “Rock Stars” show that was aired last season and featured High Angle Rope Techs doing rock scaling work.
The company doing the climbing for “Rock Stars” was Janod, Inc., who is the industry leader in rock slope remediation work. They had a contract with National Geographic Channel and Echo Entertainment, Inc. who was the production company behind the show.
The contract granted Echo’s film crews access to Janod’s jobsites, but also had a clause in it stating that Janod had the right to first air and edit out any material that would portray them in a negative light. Well, after seeing the material that Echo provided to NatGeo to put on the air, they tried to get the show pulled and also sued for breach of contract. NatGeo went ahead and aired the show (which sucked, as I saw it and also know about rock slope work), Janod sued and lost when the judge threw the case out of court for lack of jurisdiction…and apparently NatGeo is doing the same thing now with tree care workers.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, but to make a long story short, maybe the tree company OWNERS are trying to do the same thing as Janod did, but are fighting a losing battle with the Network? I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I don’t know the background to the production rights of this particular show.
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Wow Chris, thanks for the information. The Helll with Nat Geo channel. The other shows they show during commercials look just as dramatic and sucky.
To Helll with Nat Geo!
I haven’t seen the show and have no intentions of even watching one episode after reading the posts here. From the sounds of it, this show is a lot like NatGeo’s “Rock Stars” show that was aired last season and featured High Angle Rope Techs doing rock scaling work.
The company doing the climbing for “Rock Stars” was Janod, Inc., who is the industry leader in rock slope remediation work. They had a contract with National Geographic Channel and Echo Entertainment, Inc. who was the production company behind the show.
The contract granted Echo’s film crews access to Janod’s jobsites, but also had a clause in it stating that Janod had the right to first air and edit out any material that would portray them in a negative light. Well, after seeing the material that Echo provided to NatGeo to put on the air, they tried to get the show pulled and also sued for breach of contract. NatGeo went ahead and aired the show (which sucked, as I saw it and also know about rock slope work), Janod sued and lost when the judge threw the case out of court for lack of jurisdiction…and apparently NatGeo is doing the same thing now with tree care workers.
Sorry to go off on a tangent, but to make a long story short, maybe the tree company OWNERS are trying to do the same thing as Janod did, but are fighting a losing battle with the Network? I would like to give them the benefit of the doubt, but I don’t know the background to the production rights of this particular show.
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Wow Chris, thanks for the information. The Helll with Nat Geo channel. The other shows they show during commercials look just as dramatic and sucky.
To Helll with Nat Geo!
treevet
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- Cincinnati, Ohio
You know....I am changing my mind. We lost the last treeman reality show and this one is entertaining. They have been scripted to be the "dumb crew) blue I think...the all climbing crew (even with a tree bent over a roof when there is total access for a picker) red I think...and the techno crane crew ...yellow team? and the middle of the road team...that went to the zoo in a dramatic near death visit.
All the guys seem pretty good guys I could make work on my crew with some time and wouldn't mind having a beer with if I still drank. They get the jobs done except the dumb designates which are slated to notch a stick into a fence post on the previews for this week in a follow up to the staged car smash.
Hey my 2 man crew is better than any of these crews but then what crews aren't I better than? Case closed. Tune in and quit being a bunch of fuddy duddities.
All the guys seem pretty good guys I could make work on my crew with some time and wouldn't mind having a beer with if I still drank. They get the jobs done except the dumb designates which are slated to notch a stick into a fence post on the previews for this week in a follow up to the staged car smash.
Hey my 2 man crew is better than any of these crews but then what crews aren't I better than? Case closed. Tune in and quit being a bunch of fuddy duddities.
Treezybreez
Been here much more than a while
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"Arborist Bachelor" show
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"Arborist Bachelor" show
[/ QUOTE ] LOL! I can hear the host say,"Can the blond tie a proper bowline?"
