New Tendon Timber Ropes

treethings said:
I'll be honest, I'm not sure how the design and rating were achieved. They could have used the Secure and compact technologies to achieve this, but I don't have that info. Tendon doesn't always share their "secrets" and I haven't dismantled any of the Timber ropes yet. Perhaps I'll have to do that sometime soon.
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Adding to your list Treething.. how about some tested, verified & proven, low profile terminations/splices that fit through our mechanical devices, like Cousin Atrax is producing. If your cordages & terminations like this were proven solid, safe & sold here, I'd assume at least half of the ppl using mechanicals that aren't midline friendly, would be interested in whatever your selling..

(Speaking of which, has anyone had any experience with them yet or does no one know what I'm talking about, point me to the thread if so.)
 
Jimmycrackcorn said:
Adding to your list Treething.. how about some tested, verified & proven, low profile terminations/splices that fit through our mechanical devices, like Cousin Atrax is producing. If your cordages & terminations like this were proven solid, safe & sold here, I'd assume at least half of the ppl using mechanicals that aren't midline friendly, would be interested in whatever your selling..

(Speaking of which, has anyone had any experience with them yet or does no one know what I'm talking about, point me to the thread if so.)
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Can you point me to any information on this? I'd love to learn more and see what we have that might be comparable and useful to you.
 
treethings said:
I get what you're saying. I will stick around and make myself available.

Can you guys recommend a couple of people whose opinions you respect, and have experience with a variety of rope brands, as well as experience writing a proper review? Maybe someone with a blog and history of reviewing rope.
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I would be happy to try a few short pieces for splicing. I would like to see how easily/hard it splices and maybe send them off for break testing.
 
Since none of the well-known North American or European arborist rope manufacturers have stepped up with a harness rope bridge that is not proprietary, strong market opportunity to be the provider of a smartly constructed and tested harness bridge cordage in various sizes, say 10mm, 11mm for starters. Not sure why this hasn't happened yet, it's clear that tree climbers want to have an option to buy a trusted/tested harness bridge replacement cordage by the foot.

Edit: starting a separate thread on this subject, deserves a dedicated conversation.
-AJ
 
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evo said:
If it’s quality and want to play with the big boys don’t go cheap. Go competitive otherwise your only market will be bargain discount arbs (which is a huge demographic), but not a good way to build cred.
I can think of a few key features many of the domestic suppliers are missing. Not that I think we have crap for selection but really how many freakin colors and names does one need for the same rope (Yale 11.7’s). And then how many clones do you need of the same construction (Samson velocity series)..
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I have to agree. There was a time when a new color was all the rage. I used to know all the rope by name circa 2012. Now it seems like the same rope has well over a dozen different names. I don't think I could name them all today. I just call them by rope construction now.
 
I didn't know there were aluminum shackles available anywhere....did anybody notice these on their arbo harness?
Idk how to link it on my phone but they say they have aluminum shackles on their arbo harness...
 
I brought some in to Arbsession. Not for sale but to get a feel for it. I got the 11mm climb line timber evo and the 15mm rigging line timber. Bought 600' of both. Cut it into specific lengths and sent it out to some highly skilled arborists in Wisconsin that I trust to give a solid review. Haven't really asked for true feedback yet. I want them to be thorough with it and that takes time.
I also brought in their throw line. Passed it around to the guys at Selner Tree (another company I own with my dad) and sent some out. Reviews aren't great with the throw line specifically. It breaks really easily.
This is my goal with Arbsession, Inc. I want to stay in front of all the yet to be developed products along with new manufacturers to the arborist industry. It's all about advancing the industry. Many on here may or may not know me but you all are my drive. I have been in this industry since I could walk. There should be a direct connection and open dialog to the manufacturers of the products we use. I want to be that bridge and will get the answers to the questions you have. You want to see something available or think it will advance our industry let me know. I'm not a wanna get rich guy. My passion is this industry. I'm looking to build the best arborist supply store. You guys will be put first. The awesome thing is I want you all a part of it! Magical things are happening. I'm so pumped.
 
I like the 8mm cord that Ryan sent me. Some of the descriptions say it’s partly made of nylon, but melting the cover and core, they both smell like polyester. It looks like a double braid, so could be spliced. I really like the cord, but the stitching is loose, the two sewn sections move when loaded. The stitching locks are also mostly on the outside, and some are in the middle of the stitch. Ryan contacted the factory, which said they were fine with them as they tested okay. These remind me of the Petzl loose stitching. There doesn’t seem to be much compressing while being stitched, the stitches are the only thing holding it together apparently.
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The top photo has two 6mm sewn cords for comparison. The bottom shows the eyes loaded, a lot of slanting. The sewn sections are flexible, not rock hard like all other sewn items I’ve seen.
 
Brocky said:
I like the 8mm cord that Ryan sent me. Some of the descriptions say it’s partly made of nylon, but melting the cover and core, they both smell like polyester. It looks like a double braid, so could be spliced. I really like the cord, but the stitching is loose, the two sewn sections move when loaded. The stitching locks are also mostly on the outside, and some are in the middle of the stitch. Ryan contacted the factory, which said they were fine with them as they tested okay. These remind me of the Petzl loose stitching. There doesn’t seem to be much compressing while being stitched, the stitches are the only thing holding it together apparently.
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The top photo has two 6mm sewn cords for comparison. The bottom shows the eyes loaded, a lot of slanting. The sewn sections are flexible, not rock hard like all other sewn items I’ve seen.
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That doesn’t look like something I'd want to use...
 
Brocky said:
I like the 8mm cord that Ryan sent me. Some of the descriptions say it’s partly made of nylon, but melting the cover and core, they both smell like polyester. It looks like a double braid, so could be spliced. I really like the cord, but the stitching is loose, the two sewn sections move when loaded. The stitching locks are also mostly on the outside, and some are in the middle of the stitch. Ryan contacted the factory, which said they were fine with them as they tested okay. These remind me of the Petzl loose stitching. There doesn’t seem to be much compressing while being stitched, the stitches are the only thing holding it together apparently.
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The top photo has two 6mm sewn cords for comparison. The bottom shows the eyes loaded, a lot of slanting. The sewn sections are flexible, not rock hard like all other sewn items I’ve seen.
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That looks like a shit sewn eye. Honestly only iron street from wesspur is doing a good job for me these days. Rope Logic from Treestuff/Sherrill are not great lately. Just got 2 sloppy 10mm epi from them.
 
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