Neurodiversity thread

I’ll look at this later. Thanks.
I hope that we are on the precipice of much greater awareness, away from the binary of ‘normal’ and ‘other’.
Psychology was built upon a shaky foundation, instead of tearing the whole shit show down it is constantly remodeled. Sure it’s getting better but there are some core foundations and dogmas that need to get binned first.
To your point, thankfully I've worked with and around enough folks who are respected in their craft and individually don't give a rip how they're perceived. I've gleaned self management techniques from each of them and have learned to lean into how I function rather than how others perceive how I function. This is also why my wife and I homeschool our kids. We get to equip each one to respect their unique way of interacting with the world, lean into their strengths, and learn how to face their challenges. This is no excuse for being self-focused and entitled to the world having to come to them on their terms. Rather, they have to learn their best strategy for achieving what they want in this world, including healthy relationships with others.

There are two ditches on either side of the best route in life. In the ND world, one is victim mentality (or self absorption), while the other is not acknowledging it at all, or creating the binary system you mentioned, evo. I think winning looks like being ourselves and doing our best to do well for our spheres of influence.

Okay, time to put the keyboard down, not sure I'm contributing at this point, just brain dumping.
 
When I personally think of learning style I’m mostly considering teaching style on one hand and the student on the other. Some subjects come crazy easy and natural while others are essentially impossible.
Since I am feeling I have my feet under me when attending many CEU classes. the subject matter isn’t novel nor that interesting anymore I spend more time understanding what makes a great instructor vs a meh one. That and the groups ability to absorb the content shown through the level and quality of the questions mid stream and for the Q and A portion.

I wouldn’t be so quick to toss out the bath water with the ‘dis proven’ study of types of learning. There are also types of retention and memory recall! Some lessons are so quick they just become second nature, others while known may not be accessible at the time they are needed.

IF we are generalizing into a binary, of normal vs impaired. The needs of the ‘impaired’ really boil down to the social expectations. This is where the impairment scale becomes important commonly referred to as ‘low, moderate or high’ functioning.
Sure there are those that are literally non verbal and are unable to communicate in a manner where the untrained can understand. Yet those that are ‘high’ on the function scale still have to deal with impairment. The simplified analogy of the water glass over flowing is probably the best. Every person has their volume limits, yet the tricky thing with those that are ND is volume management. Often the baseline for ND is starting off with a glass that is nearly half full, every detail of a daily experience adds to the glass. The ‘normal’ glass manager knows when to take some liquid out so that cup doesn’t overflow and how to intuitively moderate. For those that are ND, it doesn’t take much for that glass to start spilling over the sides, and some situations is like placing that glass on a stove top to start boiling over making a mess all over the stove.
Yet this is to some degree universal, but those ‘impaired’ the level of glass management and control is where the impairment lies. That glass management required constant awareness and a exponential amount of the brain calories to control.

That is the ‘impairment’

Another way to think of it is a ballon or a ball. One can sit on a ball, the sitting is the stressor. The type of the ball is the persons wiring. So one can sit on a basketball and it hardly deforms. Yet someone else’s ball may be a ballon, it can be sat on but it pooches out trigging overwhelm and those pooches are cognitive function or impairment symptoms. If that ballon pops all hell breaks loose and ND folks can experience meltdown/shutdown taking many days to weeks to recover back to even having a glass to hold any liquid.
Sure this is universal to some degree yet the ND had to deal with this as a baseline. The constant societal pressures define impairment expression and unfortunately our society exasperates. It’s one that others and categorizes into boxes.

Obviously this is a current hot button in politics. One apparently caused by Tylenol usage in utero :vomito:, part of the epidemic that is being noted is due to broadening the definitions of what is ND and the other part is diagnostic tolerances are being refined to recognize it more easily.

It actually pisses me off to no end, the notion that there are those who seek out or hide behind a diagnosis. In a broad scope this shit ain’t fun, just look at the suicide rates and or life expectancy differences. Is it perfect? Are there misdiagnosed whom built an identity around it? Just consider why an individual may need to feel to use their diagnosis as a shield. Sure it can be overdone like anything else
 
It actually pisses me off to no end, the notion that there are those who seek out or hide behind a diagnosis. In a broad scope this shit ain’t fun, just look at the suicide rates and or life expectancy differences. Is it perfect? Are there misdiagnosed whom built an identity around it? Just consider why an individual may need to feel to use their diagnosis as a shield. Sure it can be overdone like anything else
This is an interesting part that I munch on regularly as I meet folks who have the full spectrum of relationship with a diagnosis. I saw a shrink who didn't like or believe one should put a name to it/diagnosis, in this case depression, as it was a self feeding wall to betterment or whatnot. A family friend spoke about how empowering it was to get a bipolar 2 diagnosis and allowed her to put a name to her experience. Some do seem to use as a shield like you mentioned, but hard to know. My opinion on it has softened with each interaction.

Not having adhd it is especially helpful to me when folks explain how their brain works, or seeing video snippets which illustrate habits in a funny but real way. If someone shares their diagnosis or whatever label along with examples of what is easy/hard/helpful/baffling I can expand my framework of understanding, as I may not understand what one is like and vice versa. Reading an article on Mayo Clinic or whatever doesn't sink in the same. I grew up in a very opinionated, judgmental, and projecting household so it's been a long rd to figuring this stuff out without putting my personal world overlay on someone's experience.
 
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