Neat Trick For Crane Climber, Or Laziness?

i race that crane all the time. i love to hear groundmen whine. not just big azz peices a lot of times i break a limb apart so it speeds the ground up. makes the tree take less time making my job easier. wait on crane on yoyo climber to rig up limbs + 10 hours with clean up and stump on a big tree. race the crane and break down limbs and that tree just took 8 hours
 
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appreciate your work ethic "beating the ball to the next pic", but the idea is to utilize the crane to both aide the climber and increase productivity. constantly trying to "beat the ball" in 20 yrs. is going to have more than your balls beat. remember the crane op. is just moving his hands, if he can't make it easier on you, somethings wrong. with more and more experience you will be able to judge the cg of limbs more accurately and you will have to use spiders less. (they still have their place in some situations) regards, tom.

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We only beat the ball when it is an aide and increases productivity. There are so many configurations with rigging that the limits are boundless. We like and train for our picks to come off with as little movement as possible, avoid side loading the boom at all costs. When pieces move rapidly the booms angle of deflection changes greatly. By reducing those cycles of bending and torsional moments the crane will have a longer life span, the rigging won't be subjected to those forces, the op will have an easier time, the cut will be easier to make and less prone to pinching...etc the list of positives goes on forever. Not to forget the uneducated home owner gets to witness precise safe work.
 
i produce nice safe work everyday. i have been rigging cranes since i was 16; for the record i'll be thirty five in september. All types of rigging demo and installation. they are all the same: know you boundaries and work within them. spider legs if you need them, two strap if you need to, controlled felling if you need to, single leg pics if you need to, whole tree removal one shot if its plausible and you have the lay down room sounds great. remove a twenty thousand pound leader or section of trunk; better hope you know how to crib a crane so the out riggers don't punch through the street. personally i like single leg picks and tip tying them so they are easier on the ground crew to chip and i like one sling on trunk sections rigged to tilt over so they land easily but i know how to use a wedge so i don't worry about a piece rolling around slowly have been known to hang a leader off itself then pick it with the crane when working with a bucket & a crane.
 
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appreciate your work ethic "beating the ball to the next pic", but the idea is to utilize the crane to both aide the climber and increase productivity. constantly trying to "beat the ball" in 20 yrs. is going to have more than your balls beat. remember the crane op. is just moving his hands, if he can't make it easier on you, somethings wrong. with more and more experience you will be able to judge the cg of limbs more accurately and you will have to use spiders less. (they still have their place in some situations) regards, tom.

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We only beat the ball when it is an aide and increases productivity. There are so many configurations with rigging that the limits are boundless. We like and train for our picks to come off with as little movement as possible, avoid side loading the boom at all costs. When pieces move rapidly the booms angle of deflection changes greatly. By reducing those cycles of bending and torsional moments the crane will have a longer life span, the rigging won't be subjected to those forces, the op will have an easier time, the cut will be easier to make and less prone to pinching...etc the list of positives goes on forever. Not to forget the uneducated home owner gets to witness precise safe work.

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Nicely said Bro. Now that I've been siting in the seat and not on the other end I do like them coming off with no or little movement
 
Bottom line is the old adage "practice makes perfect". Pro golfers go out with their lunch pales and hit balls on the practice range for 8 hours a day every day until their hands bleed in some instances. A pro is a pro in any profession.

If you don't have a crane, get one, even a starter one. Once you have one, use it daily if possible, even if the job doesn't entirely call for it. Op practices, climber practices, gm's practice. Procedure is followed and eventually set in stone with ANSI in mind. Questionable circumstances become fewer and farther between in appearance as years pass.
 
quote]i produce nice safe work everyday. i have been rigging cranes since i was 16; for the record i'll be thirty five in september. All types of rigging demo and installation. they are all the same: know you boundaries and work within them. spider legs if you need them, two strap if you need to, controlled felling if you need to, single leg pics if you need to, whole tree removal one shot if its plausible and you have the lay down room sounds great. remove a twenty thousand pound leader or section of trunk; better hope you know how to crib a crane so the out riggers don't punch through the street. personally i like single leg picks and tip tying them so they are easier on the ground crew to chip and i like one sling on trunk sections rigged to tilt over so they land easily but i know how to use a wedge so i don't worry about a piece rolling around slowly have been known to hang a leader off itself then pick it with the crane when working with a bucket & a crane.

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Bottom line is the old adage "practice makes perfect". Pro golfers go out with their lunch pales and hit balls on the practice range for 8 hours a day every day until their hands bleed in some instances. A pro is a pro in any profession.

If you don't have a crane, get one, even a starter one. Once you have one, use it daily if possible, even if the job doesn't entirely call for it. Op practices, climber practices, gm's practice. Procedure is followed and eventually set in stone with ANSI in mind. Questionable circumstances become fewer and farther between in appearance as years pass.

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Very good points Jeff and Dave and I agree completely.
 
Goundies whining when using a crane!You would think they would just fall in work mode get the job done.Using a crane speeds up any job.

But when do groundies stop whining?If they are not talking about who they are bangin then their whining about something hurting!

I did a job with a new groundie work was on a red oak top split from a storm.Time I got done clearing a hole so I could rig parts over the house in it on the other side the new groundie was running around with no shoes on.I asked him where his shoes was he said I don't want to get them dirty.Then to top it all off he asked if he could go lay down in the front yard cause he was tired!..So if your groundies only whine cause you added a crane then no biggie cause the ones I work with never stop
 
Wow, I guess that I'm lucky because my ground workers are all first class tree men and I show them the utmost respect.

I protect them and they protect me...team effort all the way.
 
That's how tree care should be done!Its not my company so I don't do the hiring.I buy them lunch when they do a good job.But the whole ideal of team never sticks to long with most.I got one good groundie that's my lead groundsman does my rigging.Others are spoiled little house kids.So I just work them harder more they whine most of them get burnt out fast stop showing up.Then it starts all over
 
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