My impressions of the MS 201T

Mark, I know quite a few climbers that have went with the 201T and it seems they all like them up here , now I think everyone of them has been muffler modded and they say the 201 makes better torque as hard maple is the wood they cut the most
 
From my perspective I think the lack of initial start up performance on both the 201 and the 441 is do to the fresh air portion of the blow down .

If you stop and think about it you are blowing essentually ambiant temperature air into a hot cylinder which would obviously cool it down .Now once it runs a tad bit and warms up some these slow accelleration issues diminsh greatly .

I know on a 441 it works this way as far as performance although they can be a real bear to get started at times it seems .

It's apparent from what's been stated that a rework of exhaust system does greatly improve both models .Which makes sense because generally speaking a revamp of the exhaust on any stock saw improves them .

Because of the nature of the works a trim saw like the 201 is involved in it would annoy people on getting reved up .That thing will go from idle to wide open throttle a couple hundred times a day in the business of tree triming type activities .
 
Mike , not sure by your post if you have a new 346 but if not no problem as I have 2 new ported 346's sitting here ,

The reason for saws lasting is really quite simple , I donot want more than 185 pounds or so of compression where most others want 220 pounds of compression to make their power , I use porting to gain that power but still run lower compression so the crank bearings last alot longer time , the higher the compression the shorter the crank bearing last plus the higher the compression the greater the risk of detonation and burning the piston up and you need to watch your fuel very close to make sure its got as high of octane reading as you can get
 
Cory this is going to sound stupid but I have enough very good guys I try to take care of and I have not taken very few saw builds on as I'm trying to get caught up on my back log of saw work , I'm close but still not caught up yet so until I do I would sooner guys go to someone not as busy as me , guys like Mike Poor and my normal guys I have dealt with for a long time and will do whatever I need to do to help them out
 
I understand, no problem.

My 201s are running well now, go figure.

Btw, the extreme high idle problem apparently was due to fuel line/filter getting hung up inside tank, so that as fuel level dropped with use, the fuel uptake would be held out of the fuel so would suck air and go high idle.
 
We have several of the 201 climbing saws and have the same problem. Can someone give me the short version of how to improve power?

Thanks,
Eddy
 
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We have several of the 201 climbing saws and have the same problem. Can someone give me the short version of how to improve power?

Thanks,
Eddy

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Light it on fire, call your insurance company then rob someone who owns a ms200. Option 2, have the part of your brain that remembers how good a 200 was removed, then you'll think a 201 rocks.
 
201 is an excellent machine for me.
I dropped mine last year from 30plus feet and today it stihl cuts like a demon for a HUGE Ash removal.
201 all the way thru and upto 18" dia and then 660 rest of the way.
That is my gold medalist pair.
Cheers
 
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My 201 is Factory specs modded. But could someone explain me why it's necessary to mod a saw to make it a reasonable performing saw? Shouldn't a good saw perform brilliant stock factory brand new? Or is that too much to ask these days.

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It's too much to ask. The best thing with Stihl, although they break in real slow, is that there is headroom to get the saw adjusted to accommodate many different users. I think the saw can be dialed in right. Mine is a cherry. I won't part with it. 201T.
 
I have used some first edition 201T saws and they all were to sad to be treu.

Recently got the opportunity to try out the new modificated 201T with different carb and ignition system.
No troubles with cold start, direct power and no trouble shooting while warming up. Runs great, not as great as the old 200T but nevertheless a nice machine to have on your side and work your way trough the tree.

Somewhere half september the modification will be available at the dealers over here...untill that time I just keep on working with the good 'old' 540 T ;-)

Hope this modification will hit the US market the same time so all of you with poor running machines can update it to a better mod, supported by stihl.

Climb safe and happy sawin'
 
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I have used some first edition 201T saws and they all were to sad to be treu.

Recently got the opportunity to try out the new modificated 201T with different carb and ignition system.
No troubles with cold start, direct power and no trouble shooting while warming up. Runs great, not as great as the old 200T but nevertheless a nice machine to have on your side and work your way trough the tree.

Somewhere half september the modification will be available at the dealers over here...untill that time I just keep on working with the good 'old' 540 T ;-)

Hope this modification will hit the US market the same time so all of you with poor running machines can update it to a better mod, supported by stihl.

Climb safe and happy sawin'

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Interesting Wouter, cheers.

The 201t feels like it should and could be a much better saw.
 
Just got a 201t, drilled a 1/2" hole in the muffler, drilled out the H limiter and opened up the H...then popped the flywheel and filed the key by a third, turned the flywheel CCW and advanced the timing....my saw screams and has way more torque and throttle response than my 200t...that saw needs to breathe...I parked my 200t...the stratified engine has nuff potential...
 
Have recently tried the old modified 201T and the newest 201T straight from the stihl factory with factory modifications. Big difference in these two saws and the new factory machine starting with serial nr higher as 177543232 are sure the stihl saws like we know them. I reckon its Just comparable to the 200T ! And with this new saw you don't need any after market mods at all.

The main issue is that a lot of different 201T's have different compression and the make up from the cylinders seems to be done at different sources. Some lasered serial nr are done differently and prob made at other companies.

Thats why one is happy with it and the other is to sad to be true ;-)
 
Back when the 200ts came out...i got a damn lemon from the factory...swapped out carbs, changed it to a pmn chain, pulled the spark arrestor...did all i could to make that pos cut. Have bought 20 since then...never had the same problem. Did buy 3 ms200t's when i heard about the 201 problems though...have yet to bust into those boxes yet. First year or two of a new saw...i'll wait from now on...the ms441 taught me that. (The new one's are on auto choke all the time to start them.) Another cold blooded beast.
 
My modded 201t is not comparable with a 200t it's better
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and my serial number begins with 175....here is that big hole in the muffler, the timing is advanced and the ( H ) limiter is removed so I can tune it with a 5/64 allen wrench...BAMB job done...
 

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My modded 201t is not comparable with a 200t it's better
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and my serial number begins with 175....here is that big hole in the muffler, the timing is advanced and the ( H ) limiter is removed so I can tune it with a 5/64 allen wrench...BAMB job done...

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wow that's a big hole! I was never good at filling; well nevermind...i wonder what/if any improvement the 200 would have with such a large, round, bald hole? ( by bald i mean no spark arrestor, get your mind outta the gutter.)
 
Ok, retraction time. When I started back @weltree he gave me a 201t and a 261c out of the box. I figured " at least they're new". However having run the same saws for 6 weeks doing storm repair I'm a convert. The 201 roars and after having weeks at- 20c I can say my 200 would probably been pieces by now. Only concern is the chain brake doesn't engage as easily as it should, but that only matters when I have 2 hands on the saw. The 261c is wild too. After a bit of old dog new trick with the no choke ( old dog kept flooding it), it's great. I still wouldn't thank you for a free regular 261.
Btw my original conclusions were based on trying the "kids" new 201 and the regular 261's that were in the shop more than on the road.
I still say f stihl, but it's a little f.
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Here we go again, the turd has struck again. Started seeing oil spots on my saw pants today then down the inside of the bucket. Found that the crankcase seal, which you all will know is also what seals the bar oil tank halves, has failed and the bar oil now pisses out the side as fast as you can pour it in. How long before the case side fails and the saw leans out and grenades? Keep in mind this saw is now 3 months old and will require an extensive rebuild. How can a company who built an icon like the 020/200 now serve up a piece of sh1t like the 201? Believe me, if I owned the saw I'd make a video of me setting it on fire, post it and send the ashes to stihl head office.
FFFFFFF stihl
 
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