Muslim Holiday Stamps? C'mon
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Islamic terrorism has its roots in western enlightenment political theories. The idea that society can be fundamentally changed through violence is one of Marx's key ideas. And Just like Marx's ideas will never be rejected neither will the idea of an Islamic World State.
The most dangerous thing about Islamic terrorism is that it was born from western revolutionary theories. Irrational religous fervour has mixed with rational western enlightenment ideology and has ignited a violent fire which is impossible to control. It will never be stopped, only contained, this is why everyone who is not of the Muslim faith, should remain vigilant to the creeping infuence of Islamic culture.
Muslim stamps? No thanks.
ps Oakwilt, Treespotter amd Herr Phloem - you know I'm right.
Islamic terrorism has its roots in western enlightenment political theories. The idea that society can be fundamentally changed through violence is one of Marx's key ideas. And Just like Marx's ideas will never be rejected neither will the idea of an Islamic World State.
The most dangerous thing about Islamic terrorism is that it was born from western revolutionary theories. Irrational religous fervour has mixed with rational western enlightenment ideology and has ignited a violent fire which is impossible to control. It will never be stopped, only contained, this is why everyone who is not of the Muslim faith, should remain vigilant to the creeping infuence of Islamic culture.
Muslim stamps? No thanks.
ps Oakwilt, Treespotter amd Herr Phloem - you know I'm right.
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Might want to read Marx again. You got it wrong.
As far as the Koran advocating violence, it's no different than the Bible stating the exact same thing.
Keep the mythical Jesus' and Allah's the hell away from man's and nature's laws.
A neighbor of mine considers himself "rightious" by way of membership in a certain fundamental christian church. Yet he cheats on his wife, beats his kid, and steals from taxpayers. A muslim I know chairs a food-bank foundation for the poor and volunteers at an animal shelter.
Which one of these should be stoned to death?
Might want to read Marx again. You got it wrong.
As far as the Koran advocating violence, it's no different than the Bible stating the exact same thing.
Keep the mythical Jesus' and Allah's the hell away from man's and nature's laws.
A neighbor of mine considers himself "rightious" by way of membership in a certain fundamental christian church. Yet he cheats on his wife, beats his kid, and steals from taxpayers. A muslim I know chairs a food-bank foundation for the poor and volunteers at an animal shelter.
Which one of these should be stoned to death?
treebing
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Wow jamin, mocking other people isn't very christian i would think.
The united states post office has no religious affiliation whatsoever as I recall. I dont see how a muslim holiday stamp is any different than a christian holiday stamp. There are millions of muslims in this country that spend money on stamps and need to send letters. The US postal service is just trying to keep its customers happy, you dont have to put one on your letters if you dont want one. i dont have any reason for one.
if I were a christian fundamentalist, i think that a muslim state would be a good thing. All the issues like Gays, abortion, the pornification of our society, alcohol and drug use etc. would be resolved once and for all.
I always crack up that our incredibly violent "christian" leaders seem to have the same views of the world as the incredibly violent "muslim" terrorists that they are fighting. If they worked together, they just might actually be able to stop fags and abortions.
I just wish they would all go to the moon and kill eachother and leave the rest of us alone.
Wow jamin, mocking other people isn't very christian i would think.
The united states post office has no religious affiliation whatsoever as I recall. I dont see how a muslim holiday stamp is any different than a christian holiday stamp. There are millions of muslims in this country that spend money on stamps and need to send letters. The US postal service is just trying to keep its customers happy, you dont have to put one on your letters if you dont want one. i dont have any reason for one.
if I were a christian fundamentalist, i think that a muslim state would be a good thing. All the issues like Gays, abortion, the pornification of our society, alcohol and drug use etc. would be resolved once and for all.
I always crack up that our incredibly violent "christian" leaders seem to have the same views of the world as the incredibly violent "muslim" terrorists that they are fighting. If they worked together, they just might actually be able to stop fags and abortions.
I just wish they would all go to the moon and kill eachother and leave the rest of us alone.
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This is a sad thread.
I know what Grover is saying, and I know what the rest of you are saying.....
I think we are dealing with an inability or an unwillingness to comprehend Western Civilization's role in the Middle East (where human life began).
Islamo-terrorism did not manifest itself out of an unwarranted rage against colonialism or empire building. It has taken centuries to build up, and the current US administration's policies do nothing to quiet the rage and fears of each side. People fear what they do not know, and leaders use that fear to get a failed administration elected for a second term using the old "you don't want to change horses mid-stream" routine.
The reality is that the horse is drowning, and the world is wondering what in the hell is going on with the good ol' US of A.
Aggressive posturing begets aggressiveness. Diplomacy and understanding promotes dialogue and progress.
SZ
This is a sad thread.
I know what Grover is saying, and I know what the rest of you are saying.....
I think we are dealing with an inability or an unwillingness to comprehend Western Civilization's role in the Middle East (where human life began).
Islamo-terrorism did not manifest itself out of an unwarranted rage against colonialism or empire building. It has taken centuries to build up, and the current US administration's policies do nothing to quiet the rage and fears of each side. People fear what they do not know, and leaders use that fear to get a failed administration elected for a second term using the old "you don't want to change horses mid-stream" routine.
The reality is that the horse is drowning, and the world is wondering what in the hell is going on with the good ol' US of A.
Aggressive posturing begets aggressiveness. Diplomacy and understanding promotes dialogue and progress.
SZ
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Sure don´t hope the Iraquis judge all americans by the Blackwater standard!
Svein
Sure don´t hope the Iraquis judge all americans by the Blackwater standard!
Svein
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By the way.. what makes yáll so sure this stamp have any connection to Islam. Do you read arab? It might just say Merry Christmas (or holyday)in arab writing, quite a lot of christians write arab too you know.
Svein
By the way.. what makes yáll so sure this stamp have any connection to Islam. Do you read arab? It might just say Merry Christmas (or holyday)in arab writing, quite a lot of christians write arab too you know.
Svein
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Might want to read Marx again. You got it wrong.
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Marx's idea of violent revolution was heavily influenced by the success of the Jacobins of the French revolution, remember? they guillotined all the aristocrats? Marx agreed that the central idea of revolution by violence means must happen in order to achieve your political goals - same as the islamic terrorists.
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As far as the Koran advocating violence, it's no different than the Bible stating the exact same thing.
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I agree, the character God in the 'Old Testament' advocates violence in a big way.
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Keep the mythical Jesus' and Allah's the hell away from man's and nature's laws.
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Hate to break it to you Oakster - they both existed.
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A neighbor of mine considers himself "rightious" by way of membership in a certain fundamental christian church. Yet he cheats on his wife, beats his kid, and steals from taxpayers.
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Just an average Christian philistine, he wouldn't know or understand what it means to truly be a Christian.
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Might want to read Marx again. You got it wrong.
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Marx's idea of violent revolution was heavily influenced by the success of the Jacobins of the French revolution, remember? they guillotined all the aristocrats? Marx agreed that the central idea of revolution by violence means must happen in order to achieve your political goals - same as the islamic terrorists.
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As far as the Koran advocating violence, it's no different than the Bible stating the exact same thing.
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I agree, the character God in the 'Old Testament' advocates violence in a big way.
[ QUOTE ]
Keep the mythical Jesus' and Allah's the hell away from man's and nature's laws.
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Hate to break it to you Oakster - they both existed.
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A neighbor of mine considers himself "rightious" by way of membership in a certain fundamental christian church. Yet he cheats on his wife, beats his kid, and steals from taxpayers.
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Just an average Christian philistine, he wouldn't know or understand what it means to truly be a Christian.
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Practically every culture celebrates a festival of lights of some sort during the Christmas season, Christians don't have an exclusive on it. Recognizing other cultures takes a genuinely free mind... intolerance is about as enslaved as anybody can get.
This thread IS preposterous... now where are we gonna cook that cloven hoofed swine?
Practically every culture celebrates a festival of lights of some sort during the Christmas season, Christians don't have an exclusive on it. Recognizing other cultures takes a genuinely free mind... intolerance is about as enslaved as anybody can get.
This thread IS preposterous... now where are we gonna cook that cloven hoofed swine?
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Dang, my posts keep getting deleted.
Crikey.
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Did you say bad words?
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Dang, my posts keep getting deleted.
Crikey.
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Did you say bad words?
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Sure don´t hope the Iraquis judge all americans by the Blackwater standard!
Svein
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Since the Blackwater actions get tons of PR and the countless acts of selflessness and kindness committed by US military and civilian personnel overseas go unpublicized... I'm afraid that's exactly how Americans are being judged right now.
Decades of goodwill have been nullified by the current administration's policies. After Desert Storm the American GI was trusted and welcome practically anywhere in the world as a peace keeper... now they're viewed as stormtroopers.
After 9/11 even the majority of the Muslim world was sympathetic to Americans... that was a tremendous opportunity lost. Hating Muslims is just stupid unless you choose to hate every religious zealot on the planet... of which a great many are Christian.
I guess you could say the Christians are winning the war on terror though... a lot more innocent Muslims than Christians have died since 9/11. yippee.
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Sure don´t hope the Iraquis judge all americans by the Blackwater standard!
Svein
[/ QUOTE ]
Since the Blackwater actions get tons of PR and the countless acts of selflessness and kindness committed by US military and civilian personnel overseas go unpublicized... I'm afraid that's exactly how Americans are being judged right now.
Decades of goodwill have been nullified by the current administration's policies. After Desert Storm the American GI was trusted and welcome practically anywhere in the world as a peace keeper... now they're viewed as stormtroopers.
After 9/11 even the majority of the Muslim world was sympathetic to Americans... that was a tremendous opportunity lost. Hating Muslims is just stupid unless you choose to hate every religious zealot on the planet... of which a great many are Christian.
I guess you could say the Christians are winning the war on terror though... a lot more innocent Muslims than Christians have died since 9/11. yippee.
treebing
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why are christians allowed to eat pig? It says right there in the bible that it is no good. Thank god that christians choose to disregard that law. Pig is darn good.
why are christians allowed to eat pig? It says right there in the bible that it is no good. Thank god that christians choose to disregard that law. Pig is darn good.
easyphloem
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See the Geezers thread for more info on bacon and other pig products.
SZ
See the Geezers thread for more info on bacon and other pig products.
SZ
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Here's some friggin pork for ya!
100% Bacon. May God have mercy on my colon.
I cranked up the meat grinder and ground the bacon twice, once with the coarse plate and a second time through the fine plate.
The pile o' bacon, ready for forming into patties.
I cooked my burger in a skillet to avoid having it break apart on the grill.
Cooked to 170, ready to eat.
Out of the skillet, patted on a paper towel to remove some grease and nestled between two slices of pepper jack cheese.
Two or three of those would fill me up!
Here's some friggin pork for ya!
100% Bacon. May God have mercy on my colon.
I cranked up the meat grinder and ground the bacon twice, once with the coarse plate and a second time through the fine plate.
The pile o' bacon, ready for forming into patties.
I cooked my burger in a skillet to avoid having it break apart on the grill.
Cooked to 170, ready to eat.
Out of the skillet, patted on a paper towel to remove some grease and nestled between two slices of pepper jack cheese.
Two or three of those would fill me up!
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I think the tolerant and thinking people beat-out the ignorant and closed-minded people by a factor of close to three/one on this thread.
And Grover, you're going to have to prove that Jesus existed. I already know Allah did.
I think the tolerant and thinking people beat-out the ignorant and closed-minded people by a factor of close to three/one on this thread.
And Grover, you're going to have to prove that Jesus existed. I already know Allah did.
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Needless to mention, your recipes make my mounth water and always trigger a trip to the grocery store.
Needless to mention, your recipes make my mounth water and always trigger a trip to the grocery store.
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Allah is what muslims call their God, probably the same guy we praise. When did he exist and is he now gone?
Cheers
Svein
Allah is what muslims call their God, probably the same guy we praise. When did he exist and is he now gone?
Cheers
Svein
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