Moss Cinching Lanyard prototype

For the short cinching lanyard I think a stock Wichard (or quality equivalent) recessed head bow shackle (no slic pin) is a winner. Using a ring is cool but working short lanyards die fast and you want to be able to just order a sewn lanyard no hardware and swap the existing shackle on to it. No need for the slic pin feature, short lanyard does what it does, doesn't need bells and whistles. The slic pin end would be a pain getting hung once in a while since you're constantly setting and resetting short lanyard.
-AJ
 
moss said:
This is a Suncor cheapie bow shackle, basically a knock-off of the very well made Wichard recessed hex head pin shackle. Suncor shackle is about an 1/8 of the cost but is stamped with the stainless steel grade and stock diameter. The main quality difference between the two is the total crap tooling on the Suncor pin including the hex head, pin threads and the receiving threads on the shackle, very poor. So I drilled out the Suncor threads to a perfect slic pin fit and am just using the stainless bow part of it.

There are some subtle details to the finishing work I did on the bow shackle for optimal slic pin functionality. Funny thing is I used a recalled Quickie slic pin with the rounded keeper spring teeth. With the fit I got doesn't matter, won't come out unless you're removing it intentionally. Effectively zero play in the fit.

For sure if you have a tight eye on your main rope and you put a very rope friendly (as opposed to the Quickie which is less so) slic pin bow shackle on the end you have a very sweet and easily configured choking system. Yep, product waiting to happen. You read it here first ;-)

Binoculars are required though, you want to verify everything ended up as you expected it (slic pin end not pressing against wood) when you set the choke. With my double eye setup I discovered the carabiner on the end eye can act as a backup to the shackle. With the very tight eye I've got the biner doesn't rotate position. Very cool benefit, makes your climb that much better when you know you have strength with the shackle and a back up in the mix in case something about the slic pin position goes unobserved after you set the choke.
-AJ
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Does the bow meet the specs in the z133 for us at work?
 
After one climb I realize I want this on my 150' and 200' lines. The slic pin shackle makes all the difference, add it in or take it out as you want but you till have the tight eye on the end for typical crabiner use.
-AJ
 
Bob Bob said:
Great first test climb. The remote release kit with optional exploding anchor was cool too.

I assume a 5/16" - 3/8" quick screw link, delta, or pear link will also work instead of the modified shackle.
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A delta is fine if you're only using it to do a classic cinch but is not as good as a ring or bow shackle for the primary cinching modes this lanyard is designed for. I'd use a 3/8" delta for the remote cinch. Good thinking BobBob!

For me these kinds of decisions come down to an optimal blend of functionality and aesthetics, The round shape as opposed to delta pleases me. What works well and what pleases me is all I have to go on designing this stuff.

I'll test a delta in the other cinching modes to see how it is. Thx!

I'll post the "Exploding Remote-Release Anchor" soon. I've come up with a super secure configuration, for applications where you want unlimited natural redirects with a retrievable canopy anchor, or a stand-alone retrievable canopy or base anchor, or mechanical redirect. It will be produced by a top-secret division of "Very Not Bad Custom Tree Gear" called "People May Die Industries", for expert use only.
-AJ
 
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AJ, is there a reason you didn't clip the carabiner onto the line also, when doing that remote set? Seems that it would give added security in case of a pin failure on the bow shackle.
 
DSMc said:
AJ, is there a reason you didn't clip the carabiner onto the line also, when doing that remote set? Seems that it would give added security in case of a pin failure on the bow shackle.
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Great minds are great. After I reached the top, duh! Of course! For the return down I had the carabiner on the cinch as well. You can see that in the photos at the end of the vid. Will do that 100% of the time from now on when I set an anchor from the ground. Might as well take advantage of the free redundancy!
-AJ
 
Used the short rope as a bailout from 75’-ish after a complicated rope install with my 200’ line through a couple of co-dominant red oak leader tops. I found I could flip the shackle eyes through the eye which is a slightly cleaner install for a “classic cinch”. The pin has to be out to do that. This thing is definitely versatile.

https://flic.kr/p/2isBwsE

https://flic.kr/p/2isAnKa

-AJ
 
moss said:
After one climb I realize I want this on my 150' and 200' lines. The slic pin shackle makes all the difference, add it in or take it out as you want but you till have the tight eye on the end for typical crabiner use.
-AJ
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Yep, Sherrill will have to add another sewn splice termination option... The moss sewn splice
 
Mowerr said:
Yep, Sherrill will have to add another sewn splice termination option... The moss sewn splice
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They'll need to inspect one of mine to learn all the details ;-) There are some details to be considered. My current thinking is it's too weird for Notch or Sherrill knock it off. Weirdness has its benefits.
-AJ
 
The moss termination!!! If your a boss, use the moss termination on all of your ropes.
Jk
Chit that's got me thinking maybe this could be useful for rigging too?
 
moss said:
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A shackle could be used on the short lanyard instead of a ring, for that implementation I'd use a recessed hex head shackle pin instead of a slick pin shackle.
-AJ
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I keep looking at this and keep visualizing two rings instead of the carabiner and shackle.
A carabiner with a wire gate corner trap could always be added to the end ring when needed.
Would make for a smaller package.
Any thoughts on such a configuration?
 
dsptech said:
I keep looking at this and keep visualizing two rings instead of the carabiner and shackle.
A carabiner with a wire gate corner trap could always be added to the end ring when needed.
Would make for a smaller package.
Any thoughts on such a configuration?
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What are you thinking would be the purpose? I like the soft eye with carabiner on the end so I can have all the functionality I would expect from a normal setup tight eye on the end of a line.
-AJ
 
Using it the way you demonstrated but with a ring replacing the carabiner in the soft tight eye.
Might add some additional versatility to the setup.
You could space the rings out a little more which might give the ability to cinch up on smaller diameter limbs.
Just some thoughts.
 
A rope optimized for (but not entirely married to) a texas tug anchor is pretty genius by itself. That's very tidy and not floppy. Just slap a pinto on that carabinier and you can take a couple of redirects with it no problem.
I guess you have to switch your retrieval position to the end hole to smooth it out, too.
Edit: or not. I really need one of these to play with to figure these things out.
 
SomethingWitty said:
A rope optimized for (but not entirely married to) a texas tug anchor is pretty genius by itself. That's very tidy and not floppy. Just slap a pinto on that carabinier and you can take a couple of redirects with it no problem.
I guess you have to switch your retrieval position to the end hole to smooth it out, too.
Edit: or not. I really need one of these to play with to figure these things out.
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Yes, flip the biner and shackle position, add Pinto.
-AJ
 
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