Minimal climbing gear

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Sui-Slide harnesses are allowed but I hope that will be changed by the Z committee.

[/ QUOTE ]I don't like you slanderin' my gear like that buddy. I don't call your harness The Herniator, do I?
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"Throwlines stay...no discussion. In the long run they increase effeciency and safety."

A thread in itself--what about the accounts of guys falling after looping around the wrong branch? And what about the collateral damage on say 1" branches on an old elm like I saw in MN once and have seen worse? Manually advancing does minor interior wounding--lesser infection courts. If it's hot, and in the long run, you have a point tho.

"'Obsessing'...not the word that fits. Being particular and balancing the energy and time spent setting a TIP high from the start of the climb against setting low and advancing does pay off."

Many times yes, sometimes no. "Obsessing" fits when the climber is so overly particular about using a particular optional gizmo that efficiency goes out the window. Doesn't happen often maybe, but it does happen.

"How much energy is spent advancing a line? How overheated does the climber become? A simple test and race could be made."

I'll take you on any day, whippersnapper. But I pick the tree and the day! I'll meet you at the brushy maple at sunrise.
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"there are more, and louder, fans of the Silky than all others. Are we all fooled?"

maybe. maybe you all just get loud because you are little high on the buzz and the hype. I'm glad you all like em, but easy on the evangelizing, ok?
I also think you have a skewed dataset. Internet posters is not a representative sample.

"Either way, a handsaw is a must...no discussion."

I agree! For pruning I think the scabbard should have a pouch with lightweight ratcheting hand pruners, like Florian's. Considering the reduction in wounding by using those babies, they'd be a must on many trees. Even the vaunted silkless saws cannot cleanly cut small shoots.

"Split tails will increase efficiency...but let's start a new thread to continue that discussion."

O NO not again. :(
Is tying into the D-rings with only a rope ANSI compliant? I got used to doing it that way from using my tail so much.

OK back to hanging stockings on the chimney with care,
while the dependents snooze. sshhhh
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Undergeared by choice, but Still Somewhat Skilled
 
I would like to see the accident documentation "of guys falling after looping around the wrong branch."
 
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I would like to see the accident documentation "of guys falling after looping around the wrong branch."

[/ QUOTE ] A forum thread here or maybe at AS is where I saw it. Not a fatality; minor injuries and a major scare tho. I don't think it was made up, but that's all the documentation I got for ya Butch.
 
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What is 'proper' on your crew?


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A log book with records of weekly inspections of all weight bearing treeclimbing equipment must be kept. Each individual piece of equipment must be marked with a serial number or marking which differentiates it from all other equipment. Daily inspections of this equipment must be carried out by the climber. All equipment must have a suitably national recognisable safety marking eg CE.

1. Treeclimbing work positioning harness under 5 years old.

2. Four self locking carabiners(petzl ball lock).

3. First aid kit for harness(Large bloodstopper bandage minimum) attached to harness at all times.

4. Rescue whistle(not metal) attached to harness at all times.

5. Friction hitch rope for Blakes, swabish, distel etc. Knots used must be recorded and tail end of knots taped up, Double fisherman's etc.

6. Handsaw and scabbard (Silky Natanoko). Felco no 2 secateurs with sheath and string attached to harness at all times.

7. 150 ft of throwline and 2 throwbags kept in a fold away bag or spool for easy reeling out and back in.

8. Two 150 ft treeclimbing ropes(not rockclimbing ropes), which are fit for purpose.

9. Short length of treeclimbing rope for secondary and third tie in point.(Lanyard)

10. Helmet with chin strap with visor and ear defenders attached or safety glasses and earplugs. All of this must be fit for purpose.

11. Cambium/friction saver.

12. Tree climbing Spikes/Spurs.

13. Wire core flipline for takedowns.

14. Rescue knife attached to harness at all times, preferably one that will not accidently open when climbing, Leatherman, Swiss army or locknife etc.

15. Water bottle (Nalgene) allows you to clip a carabiner into it.

Thats it......ready to go climb!
 
There is the tree , it is what it is . You got what you got . If you don't get it , forget it.
Tom , who you trying to gear up ? a dummy or a pro ? It's a fine line .
 
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There is the tree , it is what it is . You got what you got . If you don't get it , forget it.
Tom , who you trying to gear up ? a dummy or a pro ? It's a fine line .

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Thats a very intelligent post Riggs! I dont think.

Just sounds like the usual tired old cliche.

There are many people on this forum who are new to treeclimbing and treework, so your post would just seem like existentenial garbage to them.

I would think that new climbers were finding this thread very useful.

Until you came along with that unimaginative post.

Riggs, you are the weakest link, Goodbye.
 
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Thats a very intelligent post Riggs! I dont think.

Just sounds like the usual tired old cliche.

There are many people on this forum who are new to treeclimbing and treework, so your post would just seem like existentenial garbage to them.

I would think that new climbers were finding this thread very useful.

Until you came along with that unimaginative post.

Riggs, you are the weakest link, Goodbye.

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Thats not cool...............
 
My truck is packed with with gear and tools. What I consider essential when I enter the back yard or the woods... (everything rated and in good repair)

PPE

Throwline (if applicable)

Spikes (if applicable)

150' or 100' climbing line, or both

Harness, outfitted with...
I use the Valtotain tresse tied in Ice Tail with a Fixe
12' lanyard/flipline through a Trango Cinch
Adjustable ring/ring friction saver
Footlock strop w/ biner + Ropeman II cam
2 loop runners (short + long)
2 wire gate biners (one on each legstrap)
2 auto-locking biners
Handsaw and scabbard, or large folding saw

MS 200T and protective pants (if applicable)

If I need water or a pole saw, etc. I'll hang'em in a central spot or have them sent up.
 
I forgot to mention. The arborist I work with carries a handsaw and scabbard, friction saver, and 1 auto-locking biner. We usually go through trees at the same pace. Climb and let climb. (how's that for a cliche)
 
C'mon now , Axe , at least you know who you're talking to , you're basically annonymous . I think Tom means well , but did you put a price on all that minimum gear ? A saddle , rope and saw
used to get alot of work done. Come back with a name Axe , and than we can talk . "existentenial garbage" Was that the minimum or the maximum.
Tom , for real though , if you are just doing some up and down you won't need half of that . Cripe , if that is the minimum, whats the max ?
 
This is my minimum list:

Helmet/basic PPE
Whistle
Harness
Rope w/snap or biner...split tail is optional
Lanyard
Handsaw
Sling/biner
Water bladder
Throwline/s

What would you eliminate from this? The water container could be discussed when the heat goes down.
 
Absolute minimum for safe climbing...

PPE

Rope of appropriate length

Harness with lanyard

I can wistle with my mouth.
Handsaw not needed for say, cabling or aerial inspection.
Sling/ biner not essential.
Water can be sent up.
One can enter most trees, albeit less efficiently, without a throwline.
 
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I can wistle with my mouth.


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Maybe so............but you certainly cant spell properly.

The spelling on this forum is abominable!

Typical treeworkers
 
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I can wistle with my mouth.


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Maybe so............but you certainly cant spell properly.

The spelling on this forum is abominable!

Typical treeworkers

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were not all jeanouses give us a brake
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Is it only I who consider rope and saddle ppe? Thiese are essential ppe no more or less then hard hat, hearing protection, and saftey glasses.
 

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