Manitex 22101S FOR SALE

It'd be nice if I could pick and choose, but the Peterbilt and Manitex boys have some set deals they like to push, or at least that's the way it seems. A 10 speed Eaton Fuller with the PX-9 380 hp engine seems to be what they are geared up for, pun intended. I'm sure once they get a package figured out it's easier for both of them to stick with it, parts and production wise. I for sure get the impression anyway that if I want to make a change I better be ready to pay extra! The last thing I'll do, should be this week, before sending my deposit off is to ask about "more gears", but I expect to get told this setup is what they have found to be best. Best for who is the question, but I do have to keep the price down as much as possible. The 6 speed Allison auto wasn't even considered, though that sure would be nice in town. About 6 to 7K extra.

My buddy who's buying my Manitex already has one, with a CAT C-13. It has plenty of power pretty much all the time, what I would like to see is what a CAT computer print out like I had done would show for an average fuel burn while the PTO is engaged. Not 1.4 GPH like the little C-7 I'm guessing, more reciprocating mass, friction etc., has to burn more. May be the same going down the road, sometimes loafing a big engine is better then working a small one hard. But, I spend a lot more time in PTO then driving so have to keep that in mind. He doesn't have a CAT dealer anywhere near or else we'd find out. With the specified rear end, they are showing 1600 rpm at 60 mph, I like that better then the 2,000 rpm I now need for 60 MPH. Another thing I need to keep in mind: I charge travel time to get to a job, so do I want to get there at 70 MPH, or 60? If I get there at 70, do I get to charge more per hour because I have a bigger engine? No....I drive 60 now, and will in the future, maybe 65 tops if I'm late getting home or it's getting dark or whatever) it also makes the math real easy 90 miles=1.5 hrs etc. Having half again as much more torque then I do now, even with the same 10 gears, should make a pretty big difference if i keep the crane weight the same.
 
It looks like a National 13110a (30 ton 110' of boom, 44' of jib) is going to be my next rig. I found a 2006 with 1500 hrs and 45 K miles, bought new by the same guy who's selling it, kept inside between uses, only set trusses once, NEVER rented out, "clean, one owner". He's owns a metal fab business and it is set up real nice, like a stainless rear step bumper and side bed rails!. It's on a Mack chassis, 427 HP, with what seems to be all the options, it's what they call the "Granite" series, for severe use. My mechanical big rig friends have nothing but good to say about the Mack, engine and chassis. Though I have been a Manitex owner I have always heard that National is the best. My buddy who's buying my 101 next week has an employee running his current 101, and he has past experience running Nationals, he claims the National has better hydraulics/control, and is easier to run smooth, we'll see.

Any other 13110 or 13100 user's out there? I due to send the down payment in a day or so, I'll pick it up in 10 days.
 
Thanks for the input. I wasn't looking forward to learning about DEF fluid, and having to deal with it, now I won't. The owner's business background/trade and the pre emission engine were huge selling points. So many of the machines I tracked down (after giving up on a new one, long story there) were sold months ago, some YEARS ago, had a gazillon hours, or were rental units, or otherwise of uncertain heritage. This was like a breath of fresh air, and I moved on it sight unseen, crazy as it seems.

BTW: I'm including my operator cab with my 101 sale to my buddy in AZ, even though he doesn't particularly want it. But part of the deal is I'm keeping the ESPAR diesel heater, as he for sure does not need that. I will try and peddle it on EBAY I guess, I'm thinking $500.00, it was around 13 or 1400 bucks new, and 2 years old. Thermostatically controlled, super efficient (.07 GPH on high output, that's not a typo), and lots of clean heat. I also have a spun aluminum 2 gallon tank that goes with it.

I'll post a picture or two when I put the new rig to work in Idaho,. I got my first price today on a factory supplied remote, complete with some needed hyd. valve changes, a bit over 14 K. In for a dime, in for a etc. etc.
 
does that machine have free swing i hope? just curious, using the remote for man basket work? we have same machine on a sterling, you will throw rocks at the manitex after you get running this one. huge step up!
 
dbl612 said:
does that machine have free swing i hope? just curious, using the remote for man basket work? we have same machine on a sterling, you will throw rocks at the manitex after you get running this one. huge step up!
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Don't know if it has free swing, hope so but if not that's OK as I have never had it before and don't know what I'm missing! The man basket comes with it, not for tree work other then a piss elm that needs to come down in my crane yard. In the past I have not had much call for a man basket, maybe once a year at most, usually guys doing work at grain mills.

The remote is whatever currently offered by National at this time, CTE uses the type on all their machines, so hopefully it's a good one.
 
Courierguy said:
Don't know if it has free swing, hope so but if not that's OK as I have never had it before and don't know what I'm missing! The man basket comes with it, not for tree work other then a piss elm that needs to come down in my crane yard. In the past I have not had much call for a man basket, maybe once a year at most, usually guys doing work at grain mills.

The remote is whatever currently offered by National at this time, CTE uses the type on all their machines, so hopefully it's a good one.
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you will like the free swing, makes it like a real crane!
 
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My buddy who's buying my Manitex already has one, with a CAT C-13. It has plenty of power pretty much all the time, what I would like to see is what a CAT computer print out like I had done would show for an average fuel burn while the PTO is engaged. Not 1.4 GPH like the little C-7 I'm guessing, more reciprocating mass, friction etc., has to burn more. .[/QUOTE]

My crane has a C13 Cat motor. The PTO/ Crane operating time at 1000 rpm is very efficient.
 
Anybody need a 2 person manbasket? If I drive to Wisconsin to pick up the new/used National, I won't have room and possibly will be overweight, by the time I load the car onboard. It does not pin to the boom, it is the suspended type. It has the built in test weights, and needed rigging. You can see it in the ad picture above, sitting in the bed. I already have one. My other option is to ship it back to Idaho.

IF I end flying back there, (I should find out this week, got to juggle my work schedule, my crane buyers schedule plus the new crane sellers schedules) I'll just jump in it and drive it back, manbasket and all. I think $500.00 is a fair deal for it if anyone is interested. If so I can arrange to leave it in Appleton WI. for your pickup, or it could be shipped. 1,000 lbs with the test weight. I'd need to know by mid week or so.
 
Just make sure you keep up with macks valve lash adjustments! About $7k if you don't! I'm jelly about that granite though. My soon to be father in law has a mack bulldog ash tray i keep threatening to steel, but i've been told it would result in a missing hand. :boxeador:
 
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