Manitex 22101S FOR SALE

The pricing I have gotten on a factory installed remote is on a brand new rig,and the price for it is rolled into the total. But yes, it is the currently supplied remote for the pilot controlled Manitex's they are building today. I have the option of paddle controls V. joy sticks, any thoughts there? I am dealing with an outfit I first met when I went to Con Expo a few years back, CraneWorks, one thing about them I like is their facility is 30 miles from the US Manitex factory, and their pricing is better then anything else I've seen so far. I am probably going to jump on a airliner in the next 2 weeks (the drive to Houston from Idaho is about 1700 miles, and I've seen all that country before, many times, round trip air is as low as 300 bucks), and thrash out the details face to face with the sales people. No substitute for that of course, I also plan to get a first hand tour of the construction plant, no problem I'm told, that will be pretty cool!

I have a few custom touches I need to have them implement, like one fuel tank on each side, under the truck cab steps, so when I'm pulling my car (and can't back up or maneuver well) and I pull into a crowded convenience store where I get almost all my diesel I have more options for pulling along the few diesel pumps there. They specced out one large tank on one side, worst of all it takes up valuable real estate under the bed, where my dunnage racks and one of my rigging boxes are now, screw that, I'm used to all the storage I now have and don't want to give any of it up.

I stopped by the CAT dealer yesterday, and they plugged in their computer and bang, I got an 8 page print out showing the total hours of the truck, total fuel consumed since new, total time spent in PTO, total fuel burned while in PTO, and on and on. Fascinating reading! It was free also, but I have an in there, I've been feeding them aerial pics of the new facility they are building. Out of the 8169 hrs on the truck since new, the PTO has been engaged 5782 hrs. 3932 gallons of fuel were consumed while in PTO, so the fuel burn averages out at 1.41 GPH. It also broke down how many hours I spend at what rpm, just anything and everything you can imagine, max temps/pressures etc. really amazing. I will use this info when I sell it of course. But as of now it appears likely I can work out a trade in value for it against the new rig, that way I can drive it to Texas, and drive the new one back, and not be out of business without a crane for more then a few days.
 
I sold the 101 to a buddy in Arizona, got a down payment anyway, and I will soon put a down payment down on the new one (22101S or maybe the 30112S, all depends on how the pricing works out) part of the deal is that I will deliver the 101. I figured out a way to safely pick my Toyota Yaris so once the delivery is complete (800 miles in the 101 carrying the car) I can drive to Houston in the Yaris,(1200 miles) and then load it on the new one and drive both home (1700 miles). Make sense? Not really but this way I can take the dog and not have to deal with airline flights, no fun at all since 9/11, and the Yaris gets low 40's MPG and I have it rigged with only the drivers seat, and two bunks, one for the dog and one for me, so no motels. Check out the rigging job, that spreader tube is light gauge TUBE, not pipe, as I need to be able to find room for it in the sub compact. I used extra long rigging to keep the angles gentle on it, it all worked out slick.

I'll need about a 4" wood block in my boom saddle, to keep the boom bottom off the roof, that will put my boom tip at about 12' high is all. A tight fit but just enough room. bag 032.webp Fun stuff, I had no work today, so this was a day off?
 

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Courierguy said:
I sold the 101 to a buddy in Arizona, got a down payment anyway, and I will soon put a down payment down on the new one (22101S or maybe the 30112S, all depends on how the pricing works out) part of the deal is that I will deliver the 101. I figured out a way to safely pick my Toyota Yaris so once the delivery is complete (800 miles in the 101 carrying the car) I can drive to Houston in the Yaris,(1200 miles) and then load it on the new one and drive both home (1700 miles). Make sense? Not really but this way I can take the dog and not have to deal with airline flights, no fun at all since 9/11, and the Yaris gets low 40's MPG and I have it rigged with only the drivers seat, and two bunks, one for the dog and one for me, so no motels. Check out the rigging job, that spreader tube is light gauge TUBE, not pipe, as I need to be able to find room for it in the sub compact. I used extra long rigging to keep the angles gentle on it, it all worked out slick.

I'll need about a 4" wood block in my boom saddle, to keep the boom bottom off the roof, that will put my boom tip at about 12' high is all. A tight fit but just enough room. View attachment 30347 Fun stuff, I had no work today, so this was a day off?
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CTM: I think you're jamming me about the small size of the Yaris, but yeah that was part of the challenge! The straps and rounds slings will stow under the seat (the drivers seat being the only one remaining for this trip), and that light weight spreader bar is 74" long, so no problem, I've carried 10' PVC conduit in it. Did I say it gets over 40 MPG?! Fun ride also. I have a 1999 Toyota Rav4 all set up for towing, I use often locally, but 2500 miles.... I'd rather carry the little Yaris.

I am getting a factory installed remote, and the first use of same will be to load the car. I had about 1200 hours on my Terex 3470 with the remote, and got pretty proficient with it, and I don't think it will take very long to get used to the new one. I love the feeling you get with a remote, like Superman, you guys running one know what I mean.
 
I had to bow it a bit! The odd little Yaris has THREE good sized glove boxes, with all the gauges mounted dead center, and several other small stash areas, really a cool weird little car.

It has come to my attention that the Manitex 30112S has multiple counterweights, 1750, 2000, and 2250 lbs (or close to those numbers), NOT interchangeable, you decide when ordering and they set up the LMI for that weight. I ran some #'s today, comparing the weight of my old (and still mine to operate for the next couple months) 22101 and the torque value of the CAT C-7, and came up with 46 lbs. of weight of 1 lb of torque. The about 9K heavier 30112 with the PACCAR 370 hp engine and 1250 lb of torque comes in at 40 lbs. I have another few days to decide which to get, and money is a big part of the decision, let me be clear on that! I like the idea of a lightweight 101 with a big engine, so much of my driving is hills and mountains, ( 32 lbs per lb of torque)I'm working at the base of the Grand Tetons again next week. But that extra capacity is tempting, I am thinking IF I opt for the 112, not getting a jib. I rarely need one with the 101, once a year or less on average. You guys that ran smaller equipment and then went bigger (with more purchase price, operating expense etc. etc.) any regrets? Today and tomorrow, 8 K lbs max and 25' away, another big well pump job, easy enough with the 101, and 1.5 hrs one way drive time, the 30 ton couldn't do it any better but I'd be packing an extra 9K weight down the highway.
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Courierguy said:
I had to bow it a bit! The odd little Yaris has THREE good sized glove boxes, with all the gauges mounted dead center, and several other small stash areas, really a cool weird little car.

It has come to my attention that the Manitex 30112S has multiple counterweights, 1750, 2000, and 2250 lbs (or close to those numbers), NOT interchangeable, you decide when ordering and they set up the LMI for that weight. I ran some #'s today, comparing the weight of my old (and still mine to operate for the next couple months) 22101 and the torque value of the CAT C-7, and came up with 46 lbs. of weight of 1 lb of torque. The about 9K heavier 30112 with the PACCAR 370 hp engine and 1250 lb of torque comes in at 40 lbs. I have another few days to decide which to get, and money is a big part of the decision, let me be clear on that! I like the idea of a lightweight 101 with a big engine, so much of my driving is hills and mountains, ( 32 lbs per lb of torque)I'm working at the base of the Grand Tetons again next week. But that extra capacity is tempting, I am thinking IF I opt for the 112, not getting a jib. I rarely need one with the 101, once a year or less on average. You guys that ran smaller equipment and then went bigger (with more purchase price, operating expense etc. etc.) any regrets? Today and tomorrow, 8 K lbs max and 25' away, another big well pump job, easy enough with the 101, and 1.5 hrs one way drive time, the 30 ton couldn't do it any better but I'd be packing an extra 9K weight down the highway.
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Courierguy said:
I had to bow it a bit! The odd little Yaris has THREE good sized glove boxes, with all the gauges mounted dead center, and several other small stash areas, really a cool weird little car.

It has come to my attention that the Manitex 30112S has multiple counterweights, 1750, 2000, and 2250 lbs (or close to those numbers), NOT interchangeable, you decide when ordering and they set up the LMI for that weight. I ran some #'s today, comparing the weight of my old (and still mine to operate for the next couple months) 22101 and the torque value of the CAT C-7, and came up with 46 lbs. of weight of 1 lb of torque. The about 9K heavier 30112 with the PACCAR 370 hp engine and 1250 lb of torque comes in at 40 lbs. I have another few days to decide which to get, and money is a big part of the decision, let me be clear on that! I like the idea of a lightweight 101 with a big engine, so much of my driving is hills and mountains, ( 32 lbs per lb of torque)I'm working at the base of the Grand Tetons again next week. But that extra capacity is tempting, I am thinking IF I opt for the 112, not getting a jib. I rarely need one with the 101, once a year or less on average. You guys that ran smaller equipment and then went bigger (with more purchase price, operating expense etc. etc.) any regrets? Today and tomorrow, 8 K lbs max and 25' away, another big well pump job, easy enough with the 101, and 1.5 hrs one way drive time, the 30 ton couldn't do it any better but I'd be packing an extra 9K weight down the highway.
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Courierguy said:
I had to bow it a bit! The odd little Yaris has THREE good sized glove boxes, with all the gauges mounted dead center, and several other small stash areas, really a cool weird little car.

It has come to my attention that the Manitex 30112S has multiple counterweights, 1750, 2000, and 2250 lbs (or close to those numbers), NOT interchangeable, you decide when ordering and they set up the LMI for that weight. I ran some #'s today, comparing the weight of my old (and still mine to operate for the next couple months) 22101 and the torque value of the CAT C-7, and came up with 46 lbs. of weight of 1 lb of torque. The about 9K heavier 30112 with the PACCAR 370 hp engine and 1250 lb of torque comes in at 40 lbs. I have another few days to decide which to get, and money is a big part of the decision, let me be clear on that! I like the idea of a lightweight 101 with a big engine, so much of my driving is hills and mountains, ( 32 lbs per lb of torque)I'm working at the base of the Grand Tetons again next week. But that extra capacity is tempting, I am thinking IF I opt for the 112, not getting a jib. I rarely need one with the 101, once a year or less on average. You guys that ran smaller equipment and then went bigger (with more purchase price, operating expense etc. etc.) any regrets? Today and tomorrow, 8 K lbs max and 25' away, another big well pump job, easy enough with the 101, and 1.5 hrs one way drive time, the 30 ton couldn't do it any better but I'd be packing an extra 9K weight down the highway.
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why would you not want to have the most capacity possible from your crane? there is only 500# difference between the largest and smallest counterweight configuration.
 
Driving up off camber dirt/icy roads, driving 3 hrs travel in one day, like today, when all I was picking was 2500 lbs 25' away. Then on the way back had to drive through town, with several quick stops and then getting back up to speed. Today a high horse power 101 would have shined. Then again, also on the way home I stopped at a job where they had the biggest wood trusses I have ever seen, 100' span, 2x10 bottom chord, real monsters. They ran the first crane guy off, something about him screwing up, I am in the running for #2 crane guy. They will be tough to rig, for sure. For that job bigger would be better. But I agree, if I spring for the 30 ton, may as well get all the counter weight I can. I found it interesting I never saw that choice mentioned in any Manitex literature, wasn't until I started getting serious proposals from dealers that it came up.
 
Courierguy said:
Driving up off camber dirt/icy roads, driving 3 hrs travel in one day, like today, when all I was picking was 2500 lbs 25' away. Then on the way back had to drive through town, with several quick stops and then getting back up to speed. Today a high horse power 101 would have shined. Then again, also on the way home I stopped at a job where they had the biggest wood trusses I have ever seen, 100' span, 2x10 bottom chord, real monsters. They ran the first crane guy off, something about him screwing up, I am in the running for #2 crane guy. They will be tough to rig, for sure. For that job bigger would be better. But I agree, if I spring for the 30 ton, may as well get all the counter weight I can. I found it interesting I never saw that choice mentioned in any Manitex literature, wasn't until I started getting serious proposals from dealers that it came up.
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the devil is in the details!
 
Man, if I didn't have to buy 5,000 other pieces of equipment (like any other real tree guy) and I was you instead....I would have the baddest ass crane walking the streets and vallies. A straight up bad mofo.

You got any vid of operating the remote? I have a remote on my larger stumper and it is a little bit of heaven.
 
Man imo....either of those cranes with a c7 is going to be a slug...have a c9 pulling the national 9103 and i still want more power. In terms of having a crane and going bigger...no regrets...makes life easier for the most part.
 
Our current setup is a 450hp DD with a 13 speed and 4.88 rears( Elliott factory we would never order a 4.88) the next one I'd like a lower hp like 375-425 and an 18 speed and 4.30 rears, I'd like 4.10 but that maybe so low that we'd start twisting drive shafts off.
 
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