Liberalism ruins everything it touches.

evo said:
It’s the conspiracy that the contrails from jets flying at high altitude are actually releasing particles and chemicals into the air to make the population more passive and controlled.
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Not quite... it's geo-engineering... weather modification...
Here's a question for ya....
How did the aluminum get into the snow on mt Shasta?
I never believed too much in chemtrails. Being a tree guy mostly looking down not up, or at least there's going to be canopy overhead... until my cousin who's an straight shooting x-cowboy turned equipment operator in California told me ... oh ya... planes fly over leaving trails that turn it into a cloudy day..

Then there's the 4 days after 911 when all air traffic was grounded... turns outbthe differential between day and night temperatures were much greater than expected...

BUT NOTHING BEATS A GOOD WHISTLEBLOWER.


She used to be in charge of hazardous materials for the airforce...

 
Funny, people have a hard time agreeing amongst themselves on all kind of things. Yet, we’re supposed to believe that climate scientist worldwide have conspired to support evidence of human caused climate change?
 
Daniel said:
Not quite... it's geo-engineering... weather modification...
Here's a question for ya....
How did the aluminum get into the snow on mt Shasta?
I never believed too much in chemtrails. Being a tree guy mostly looking down not up, or at least there's going to be canopy overhead... until my cousin who's an straight shooting x-cowboy turned equipment operator in California told me ... oh ya... planes fly over leaving trails that turn it into a cloudy day..

Then there's the 4 days after 911 when all air traffic was grounded... turns outbthe differential between day and night temperatures were much greater than expected...

BUT NOTHING BEATS A GOOD WHISTLEBLOWER.


She used to be in charge of hazardous materials for the airforce...

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I'd like to hear more solid evidence about how Chemtrails are not a conspiracy by people who don't understand condensation.
 
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There are planes that do spray chemicals, like crop dusters, and airliners dumping fuel. When they do this, you see a continuous stream flowing from the plane itself with no gap. If you get out the binoculars, you will clearly see the gap between the condensation trail and the plane. This phenomenon is as old as aviation, and was a factor in planning aerial missions in WW2, as the con-trails would give away your position from a great distance. I also don't understand why the powerful would want to poison the air that they too breathe...
 
Daniel said:
Not quite... it's geo-engineering... weather modification...
Here's a question for ya....
How did the aluminum get into the snow on mt Shasta?
I never believed too much in chemtrails. Being a tree guy mostly looking down not up, or at least there's going to be canopy overhead... until my cousin who's an straight shooting x-cowboy turned equipment operator in California told me ... oh ya... planes fly over leaving trails that turn it into a cloudy day..

Then there's the 4 days after 911 when all air traffic was grounded... turns outbthe differential between day and night temperatures were much greater than expected...

BUT NOTHING BEATS A GOOD WHISTLEBLOWER.


She used to be in charge of hazardous materials for the airforce...

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This is the problem when you're kind of stupid but not totally illiterate: you draw false conclusions and believe the most far fetched conspiracies.

Aircraft are causing chemtrails by burning - wait for it....hydrocarbons! Hydrocarbons in all sorts of forms: paraffins, cycloparaffins, aromatics, olefins, alkanes, etc., all made up of hydrogen and carbon and oxygen in different numbers and arrangements. Just like the gas in your truck, except these hydrocarbons tend to be a little longer and heavier and denser. And other stuff sneaks in there too, like sulfur, and vanadium, and maybe a trace of cadmium. But most of it is hydrocarbons - you know, toluene, xylene, iso-butane, 3-methyl hexane, 2,3-dimethly pentane, 1,2,4-trimethylbenezne, ethyl cyclohexane, 2,6-dimethylundecane, and a hundred others.

And they burn a lot of it. 330,000,000 gallons a day worldwide. That's 2 billion pounds. The magical thing is, when you put a spark to it, it releases a lot of energy and a lot of heat, which is useful, and all those hydrocarbons get broken apart and rearranged and recombined along with atmospheric gasses into other compounds, like water, and carbon dioxide, nitric oxide, and sulfur dioxide. But that 2 billion pounds of hydrocarbons is still up there. Most of it you can't see, because it's a gas. Just like you can't see your farts. But we all know when you fart because of the hydrocarbons that came from your butt.

And those clouds you see up there? Everyday clouds. Those are all water, for the most part. But you only see them when the water in the air (in the form of a vapor) has something to cling to, like a spec of dust. The spec of dust that blew up into the atmosphere from a farm or a parking lot or from a burned up meteor, or spewed from a volcano, or a spec of salt that evaporated from the ocean, become condensation nuclei. The water vapor can't turn into a visible liquid droplet until it has something to cling to, and then once it does, more water vapor can cling to it, and so on. And eventually you get a visible cloud. If there aren't enough condensation nuclei available, you don't get a cloud. If the air is really dry, you don't get a cloud.

You know what's a great source of condensation nuclei? Burned up hydrocarbons. Fly a turbine engine through a layer of air containing uncondensed water vapor and you get a long, narrow cloud forming behind it. And if the layer of atmosphere is really saturated, the cloud will grow. If the atmosphere is not that saturated, the cloud may evaporate after a short while.
 
southsoundtree said:
If like to hear more solid evidence about how Chemtrails are not a conspiracy by people who don't understand condensation.
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Unfortunately, cloud seeding is a thing, and it’s been used. Give an inch and take a mile of assumptions. If I recall correctly this occurred and went a little sideways in Dubai creating a flooding event. It’s been used to exhaust clouds for big sporting events, and if I recall correctly to imitate snow fall for Winter Olympics.
There have been studies but no wide scale geo engineering.
Key point targeted applications for specific limited results.
 
evo said:
Unfortunately, cloud seeding is a thing, and it’s been used. Give an inch and take a mile of assumptions. If I recall correctly this occurred and went a little sideways in Dubai creating a flooding event. It’s been used to exhaust clouds for big sporting events, and if I recall correctly to imitate snow fall for Winter Olympics.
There have been studies but no wide scale geo engineering.
Key point targeted applications for specific limited results.
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and those examples were all ludicrously expensive.
 
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Daniel said:
Not quite... it's geo-engineering... weather modification...
Here's a question for ya....
How did the aluminum get into the snow on mt Shasta?
I never believed too much in chemtrails. Being a tree guy mostly looking down not up, or at least there's going to be canopy overhead... until my cousin who's an straight shooting x-cowboy turned equipment operator in California told me ... oh ya... planes fly over leaving trails that turn it into a cloudy day..

Then there's the 4 days after 911 when all air traffic was grounded... turns outbthe differential between day and night temperatures were much greater than expected...

BUT NOTHING BEATS A GOOD WHISTLEBLOWER.


She used to be in charge of hazardous materials for the airforce...

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So you just took an off hand remark your cousin made at face value?

An ex-cowboy/equipment operator is a reliable source of scientific information to you?
 
I think it's pretty funny that it is always people from the far right promoting these conspiracy theories. Or, is that just my own conspiracy theory based on my own biases?
 
Daniel said:
Did you listen to the airforce whistle blower???

You guys are ignorant... with ignore being the root of the word ignorant...

DO you think you know what's going on in this world? Like ... if you don't know about it, it can't be real.

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Do YOU think you know what's going on in this world?
 
Daniel said:
Did you listen to the airforce whistle blower???

You guys are ignorant... with ignore being the root of the word ignorant...

DO you think you know what's going on in this world? Like ... if you don't know about it, it can't be real.

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I watched her presentstion in full. She says at the beginning that she is getting paid to speak, so she has a motive to say whatever will keep her getting paid. She didn't present a single piece of evidence, despite having had opportunity to collect it, just like Snowden did, who she referrences. The trails in the sky are very clearly coming from commercial aircraft, operated by civilians not subject to military punishments for whistleblowing, but we don't have herds of whistelblowers. The shear number of people- around the world, not just this country- that would have to be keeping this secret makes it so unlikely, for the simple fact that people are generally not good at keeping secrets. They see trails in Europe and Asia. They see them in Australia and South America. Do you really believe that many people are keeping their mouths shut? Fuck dude, she didn't even actually see direct evidence of it! She is drawing conclusions from a minimum of information.
 
You've got to be able to give a simple summary, motivations and provide sources, right?

For such a smart fellow, this can't be too much to ask. Should take but a minute.

Somebody in Youtube saying something surely makes it true


When are chemtrails, or contrails, as they are known to dumb sheep, having geoengineering purposes and when are they simply clouds? How do we know?

How about when spacecraft, military and private, make chemtrails?




Daniel said:
Did you listen to the airforce whistle blower???

You guys are ignorant... with ignore being the root of the word ignorant...

DO you think you know what's going on in this world? Like ... if you don't know about it, it can't be real.

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