Interesting cuts

Hey you guys,
Pete Diehl took a vhs video of the Master's Challenge in 2003 (blue shirts). I'll mail it to ya if you're interested. It doesn't have music or anything, but its neat.
 
Wow!
I gotta say I really enjoyed the pictures of the shelf cut. Very informative for me because I grab these bits of knowledge and run out onto my jobs and attempt to put them into action.
So thanks for the pictures.

HOWEVER I gotta say I could not finish reading the entire post thread.
It seemed to divert into another thread not pertainent to the original topic (and not very friendly).
Thanks Tod K. for the pictures and explanations.

Frans
 
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Hey you guys,
Pete Diehl took a vhs video of the Master's Challenge in 2003 (blue shirts). I'll mail it to ya if you're interested. It doesn't have music or anything, but its neat.

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I'd like to have a copy.
 
Ok Mahk. Be warned, its a tad boring. When I say its a little neat I definitely mean to those who know climbing, and like tcc's. If you look close you see some good moves, and lots of bad ones /forum/images/graemlins/blush.gif

Sorry for the thread hijacking Frans.
 
Re: Interesting cuts (Question)

I believe I read the whole thread, but I may have missed some parts. If my question here was already addressed, please excuse my poor observation skills.

My question is this:

Why is the cut made with such a small face?

Diagram-shelfCut1.jpg


It seems to me that a larger face would not have any disadvantages, but might have some advantages (perhaps not often, but if even 1% of the time, why not?).

Diagram-ShelfCut2.jpg


[I appologize for text in those images being so small; I didn't realize it would come out that way.]

Am I missing something? Is there a reason that such a small face is taken out?

Also, I imagine that the pull from the crane is applied directly above the cut, not above the point at which the branch is rigged. Is that correct?

Thanks.
 
Just realized ya'll thought I meant the international. Da! Oops. I was talking about the Illinois one. I should have sent private messages to the Illinois guys. Sorry.
 
Re: Interesting cuts (Question)

I have to agree with Whit's lower diagram. That's how I do it. I adjust the angle of the face depending on the situation. I adjust the distance between the back cut and the bottom of the face according to the quality of holding wood for the species. Also the depth of the back cut.
I like to have the pull from the crane not directly above the cut, but maybe a foot or two in the direction of the rigging point. Cut the face so it closes when the branch is lifted to about 85 degrees.
In the end what I expect to happen is this: I make the face and back cut with a little lift from the crane so the back cut doesn't pinch. I then clip the saw and move out the way if necessary. When the crane lifts the limb, the face will close, the hinge will break when the branch is at about 90 degrees, and the branch will move slightly away from me without swinging.
 

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Basically pullin hang with the crane... interesting.
Maybe an alternative method would be to balance 2 chokers and to boom away slightly from the climber then cable up once she's free. Not critisizing the technique shown.
Whatever works for the man on the limb eatin sawdust. BE SAFE!
 
buttcheck, you can delete your double post, just click on edit.


I do laterals boths ways, depending on the situation....two slings, keep it somewhat horizontal, pick it away from me a bit. or, as Brian showed, which works well.
 
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