How do you say this...

I'm not talking about the pronunciation of the words...that's another thread. I mean, would you say

Senna spectabilis variety spectabilis
A spectabilis variety of senna spectabilis
Senna spectabilis, but it's the spectabilis variety
etc.

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nick
 
Scientific name: Senna spectabilis
Pronunciation: SEN-uh speck-TAB-ih-liss
Common name(s): Cassia
Family: Leguminosae
USDA hardiness zones: 10B through 11



Preferred Scientific Name

Senna spectabilis (DC.) H. S. Irwin & Barneby


Subspecies/Varieties

Senna spectabilis var. spectabilis
Senna spectabilis var. excelsa (Schrad.) H. S. Irwin & Barneby

Other Scientific Names

Cassia spectabilis DC.
Cassia humboldtiana DC.
Pseudocassia spectabilis (DC.) Britton & Rose
Cassia excelsa Schrad.

Common Names

English
calceolaria cassia
 
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How does one properly say this:

Senna spectabilis var. spectabilis ?

love
nick

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Following instructors at Longwood Gardens:



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Senna spectabilis variety spectabilis

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Mahk, thank you for getting what I was shooting for.

I wish I was in a circle of people that understood and used these terms on a daily basis. It'd be a lot easier to learn the "language" that way!

I guess that's what the buzz if for!

love
nick
 
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It is a named selection of the species.

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That is not quite right Dan. A variety in the botanical sense is a naturally occuring distinct form of a species. A selected (i.e. cultivated) form is referred to as a cultivar.

Mahk is correct about the way you say it.
 
Just went on Wikipedia, I learned that cultivar is a "portmanteau" from the words: cultivated variety.

Variety is a legal term for plant breeders as well as the botanical subspecies; the tip as to whether the plant is a cultivar, subspecies (variety), or just a species is this:

Species: Assimina triloba

Variety: Assimina triloba var. paulsdolls

Cultivar: Assimina triloba 'Paulsdolls' (single quotations only, Paulsdolls is called an epithet)


good thread. I learned alot. Here's the link for the above info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultivar
 
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Species: Assimina triloba

Variety: Assimina triloba var. paulsdolls

Cultivar: Assimina triloba 'Paulsdolls' (single quotations only, Paulsdolls is called an epithet)

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Chris,

Do you have a picture of this tree, I've never heard of it before.
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A variety in the botanical sense is a naturally occuring distinct form of a species. A selected (i.e. cultivated) form is referred to as a cultivar.


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Not quite. They are both 'selected' in the sense that they are chosen to be reproduced and sold.

A variety is a naturally occurring form that is distinct from the rest of the species in one or a very few significant characteristics, AND it will breed true to type from seed.

A cultivar, or cultivated variety, is a group of plants that is distinct from the rest of the species in one or a very few characteristics, but it will NOT breed true to type from seed. Plants must be propagated (cultivated) in order to duplicate the same characteristics.
 
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A variety is a naturally occurring form that is distinct from the rest of the species in one or a very few significant characteristics, AND it will breed true to type from seed.



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I agree with this.


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Not quite. They are both 'selected' in the sense that they are chosen to be reproduced and sold.

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I think this is incorrect. A botanical variety is NATURALLY occurring (as you said). It has nothing to do with being selected to be reproduced or sold. It just occurs naturally on its own.


I'm not sure if I'm arguing with you or agreeing with you!
 
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A botanical variety is NATURALLY occurring

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Agreed.


Leon wrote:

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A selected (i.e. cultivated) form is referred to as a cultivar.

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I wasn't sure what you meant by 'selected', so I tried to give it some definition--maybe not the same definition that you intended.

The important distinction between a 'variety' and a 'cultivated variety' is that a 'cultivated variety' does not reproduce sexually, i.e. it will not breed true to type from seed. Progeny must be cultivated in order to retain the same distinct characteristics.
 
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