History, Politics and Globalization Refresher

I keep thinking that anytime now a third party candidate (independent?) is gonna rise to the occasion and go against the grain of BS that we hear everyday. Wishful thinking I guess.
 
The US is a two party system and as much as a third party is needed it is unlikely to ever rise to the point it would have an impact.

The harsh reality is those multinationals started as independents that grew on their success until they reached the level of needing to influence politicians. Such is the business model of capitalism.
 
TH, why ignore the fact that there was a time not so long ago in this country when a multinational American corp trying to do business in a communist country for importation and sale on our market, would have been prosecuted for violating American anti-trust laws?

Why is trading with communists and dictators cool now that our neocon globalist presidents and congressmen have made it legal?

These corps need to fear what uncle Sam can and will do to them for violating the trust of the American people.

Our sovereignty, rights, standards and laws need to be enforced again more robustly than ever before in our history.

Not sold to communist china to benefit GE, Ford and Apple shareholders.

An independent party is far preferable to the two thoroughly corrupted
political parties that have betrayed their constituents so profoundly today.

Screw reps and dems, they're equally corrupt, and our 16 trillion dollar natnl debt proves it quite tangibly.

We've dealt with robber barons before in our past. There's no valid reason we can't do it again, in the same manner as before.

jomoco
 
That would be under another law not anti-trust which deals with monopolies. When you look at the success of statutes against communist countries or dictatorships it varies depending on the products of that country. There are plenty of Cuban cigars being smoked in the US. How they got here is a mystery....

There has always been trade with dictators and communist countries if it was felt that it was in the best interests of the US. Quite often those interests aligned with certain business interests. Oh and it wasn't always about oil, remember United Fruit Co?

I agree with you on the third party but will there ever be enough voters willing to support a dark horse? Too often we vote "strategically", i.e., we vote someone out as opposed to voting them in.

As for dealing with the robber barons, for the most part, they were reined in by anti-trust laws, child labor laws, work condition regulations, etc..., many of the things that people are railing against today.

Free trade was driven by the US to open up new markets to US companies. What most countries do is create barriers to their markets by either imposing a tariff or forcing companies to situate plants within the countries boundaries thereby benefiting the local population with jobs and local areas with revenues through taxes. The US wanted to do away with such requirements and thus pursued free trade agreements with its largest trading partners.

It is not so much free trade that undermines the economy as it is the nature of publicly traded companies. They have only one master, the shareholder, to heed. Now if they were to have to function to the benefit of "stakeholders" that would alter the approach radically. Stakeholders are generally considered to be, investors(shareholders), customers, employees, municipalities in which the company conducts it's business, suppliers, etc... All of these groups have an interest in how the company conducts it's business and are impacted both good and bad by their decisions.

While we can rail against the current arrangement, it will fall on deaf ears until we can propose a better system.
 
Congress' approval ratings speak for themselves.

The country's slide into debt and unemployment since NAFTA, CAFTA and every other so called "free" trade agreement's having been signed into law, also speaks for itself.

The fact that both political parties still support these toxic "free" trade agreements also speaks for itself.

Where is the party that actually protects and defends the rights and livelihoods of the vast majority of its own American constituents?

How have the rights of the majority been so neatly marginalized in favor of the corps getting filthy rich from "free" access cheap labor pools globally, then selling their products on our own market duty free?

What does this mean to the humblest American laborer here at home?

Who made it legal to export their livelihoods to communist slave labor countries for pennies on the dollar?

"Free" trade is pure poison being spoon fed to us by both parties as if it were medicine by crooked politicians, whose approval ratings are at an all time low, for very valid and real reasons.

They are very deserving of the tar, feathers and pitchforks that await them.

jomoco
 
Which US president said this folks?

"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country. . . . corporations have been enthroned and an era of corruption in high places will follow, and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people until all wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."

jomoco
 
Doom and gloomers have been dooming and glooming for a long time.

Not that I don't agree that there has been some uncomfortable drift...but I don't agree that car is heading for the cliff.
 
I don't know about you guys, but as a father of three children I feel duty bound to do something about it.

I've no intention of being a passive cow like the cowards of 1930's Germany who went along with the govt's fascist imperial drive to rule the world by force of arms.

We are ultimately responsible for allowing this neocon BS to get as far as it has.

Eisenhower and Lincoln saw this danger to our nation, and sounded the warning.

We must shed this two party system, and re-establish our sovereign independence in the exact manner our constitution legally allows for.

Obama and Romney are two mildly different faces of the same collusive corrupted coin of deception.

Hand out the arms and ammo, because the thunder's about to Clap!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfvbz4j07KA&feature=youtube_gdata_player

jomoco
 
Thomas Paine never said jack about the buffoon in office that allowed 911 to happen right under his tea bagging neocon nose mate!

Don't you dare use Tom to further your neocon ambitions in this thread.

You are obviously out of your depth on your knowledge of Paine's life and times old bean.

Stop watching TV long enough to read To Spit Against the Wind by Levine and get back to me on Thomas Paine's life in America, England and France, Cherie.

jomoco
 
long live thomas paine !!!!!!!!
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