HH2 Hitch Length

Tried a jackleg chest tender today that actually worked really well. Picture attached - a little chilly outside. It's kind of like what some of y'all suggested, with the webbing loop(s). No complaints!

With the rope against the trunk, I tried the one-footed foot lock with *some* success. The rope, even in the best cases, never really felt like it was rock solid on my boot. It kept slipping through slowly, even though I could still make a little headway with each step.

But I was able to get a two-footed foot lock to work well by simply facing 90deg to the trunk in either direction. Shoulders got bumped up a little, and having to ascend through branches might have put the kibosh on doing it that way, but with a pine tree having little to no branches until 40' up or so, it worked fine at the elevation I was at.

Thanks, gentlemen.
 

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LordFarkwad said:
Tried a jackleg chest tender today that actually worked really well. Picture attached - a little chilly outside. It's kind of like what some of y'all suggested, with the webbing loop(s). No complaints!

With the rope against the trunk, I tried the one-footed foot lock with *some* success. The rope, even in the best cases, never really felt like it was rock solid on my boot. It kept slipping through slowly, even though I could still make a little headway with each step.

But I was able to get a two-footed foot lock to work well by simply facing 90deg to the trunk in either direction. Shoulders got bumped up a little, and having to ascend through branches might have put the kibosh on doing it that way, but with a pine tree having little to no branches until 40' up or so, it worked fine at the elevation I was at.

Thanks, gentlemen.
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How long is that yellow sling? 3'?
I use a 4' sling with two alpine butterfly's in the end, that way I can adjust the tensin easily. I can either clip in to the alpine's loops directly, giving me a loose fit and a low tending point, or I can pass the loop behing the opposite knot to make it tighter with a higher attachement point.
It just seems like this has more adjustability and less hassle, because there is only one sling.
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You are right, it is 3' long.

I'm going to try what you are doing there with a 4'. I have a 4' sling of the same construction/material as the yellow; kinda bulky, but it works.
 
Footlocking is not at all something fun to do around branches or the trunk.
What i said about advancing the HH2 is that you cant really push it up the rope unless you use the carabiner.
The homemade chest harness is a winner.
 
Footlocking is not at all something fun to do around branches or the trunk.
What i said about advancing the HH2 is that you cant really push it up the rope unless you use the carabiner.
The homemade chest harness is a winner.
 
rope-a-dope said:
What i said about advancing the HH2 is that you cant really push it up the rope unless you use the carabiner.
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Thanks - my experience confirms this!

Tried out the rope walking set up tonight...gahhhhhhhh!!!!!!

I'm sure I'm not even using it set up optimally, but holy crap it is awesome (SAKA mini with ISC Stryder and homemade chest rig tender for HH2). Unbelievably easy.
 
rope-a-dope said:
use a non-rated chest harness thing and a nonlocking biner to clip into my bridge pulley (hydra). Tending the hh from your bridge hardwear is safe and easy while rope walking. This way my hands are just holding the rope and keeping me upright. There is some sit back, as the hh biner inverts to slide up and un-inverts to engage the rope. But sliding the hh up that last bit to sit and rest after ascending is simple.
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This was total gobbledygook to me until rope walking the other evening. Do you shorten your rope bridge while you do this, to eliminate interference between the HH and the knee ascender?
 
No, mine is pretty short to begin with. The chest loop is really to keep everything on your bridge up high so you get more space for walking below. Longer bridges means you need to tend from higher up the body, like the choke hazards some climbers wear. Finding the best arrangement for the knee ascender can take many trials, it can be very specific to your particular gear and build and motion. I have seen bungees passed thru bridge rings and clipped around the waist belt or other odd things to get the desired step action. Have Fun!
 
Quick question, gentlemen (and ladies, if that applies)...

What are the wear indicators on hitch cord that trigger you to retire yours? Mine is pretty ratty looking at this point, but it's only discoloration.

I've also noticed that on some relatively quick - for me, at least - 25' or so drops, that freakin HH body gets warm! Not worried about it, but I was surprised that the bone and carabiner don't get nearly as hot. However, there is a lot more rope in contact with the HH's body than the relatively tiny contact areas on the bone and carabiner.

This is unbelievably cool, being able to simply walk up a rope...
 
Brocky said:
The Knut H doesn’t have to be tied to the point of being too tight, like the regular HH hitch. I tested it with the Regatta Braid, and was able to get it to reliably grab even with 16-18” legs.

I don’t think you’re required to use the hitch Ropetek suggests, it was the best one that they knew of.
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I took the Knut H on a HH for a little spin today (8mm Ocean Polyester) . Super impressed with it and how easy it is to tie / dress.
 
Climbed a little last night - simple basal. Threw the bag one time and sent it over a bunch of limbs about 60' up, I'd guess (very abnormal for me to not be out there throwing it for half an hour or more, even for a much lower set). It was so good that I replaced the climbing line with a throw line afterwards so I could go climb again (I'll never make that set with the bag again, I'm pretty sure). Eventually, there is a limb on this tree - or a few - that I'd like to take off, as they stuff the 2nd story gutters and cost me a few hundred a year to get cleaned out.

Quick question: does lengthening the amount of throw line you are swinging help with accuracy? I.e., when I form a 'cradle' with the bag and the line before I launch it ('V' shape with bag in the middle), does having that 'V' being taller help with accuracy? I tried it on a whim, and it went exactly where I wanted it to go. Wondering if that was a fluke or not.

Also, my simple setup for last night (basal AB with the climbing side feeding out of a bucket of rope):
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Neck tether to my bridge ring. Other than my hitch, I'm running the HH as Paul intended with the stock biner to my bridge ring. No pulley, holster, or any other bullshit, as they just seem to bring unwanted friction. It took some work trying many different hitches, but the HRC/HTP combo with a 3 & 2 VT and the hitch loading directly over the bone is the ticket for me. It follows me around like a dog on a leash, and is amazingly quick and responsive.
 
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