Help w/ removal

I agree; I like the trees too, but two have died very abruptly. They lost all needles in a single year and have leached out at the base. I am afraid to keep the trees we have and have them also die and then have widowmakers in my back yard. I am also afraid that taking them out a couple at a time every couple of years will be more expensive than taking them all at once. I'd rather harvest all at once and replant some trees that will be more suitable to the small suburban yard we have: pines in this small space just makes no sense to me. Fruit, nut, or decorative trees, ok--but why trees that top out at 60-70 feet?

No way I'm losing the fence with an 8 and 7 year old and traffic going 30-40mph up the street, sorry.

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I wondered when the 'save the trees' campaign would start.
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There may be a treatable reason that the trees died. When you talk with the arbos pick their brains. Share with us what they say. Bringing the discusssion on line is surely 'Sidewalk Engineering' but you may get better advice.

How stable are the tall pines in the area where you live? In some areas the tall pines become hazards because of windthrow in low winds. Shallow rootplates or other local conditions can make this more likely.
 
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Cut the suckers DOWN.

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The fewer working arborist with this attitude the better!

Trees have value, even pines.
 
I don't think she wants the tree and she seems to have decided that people are out to get rich quick. So I doubt she will have any faith in what an arborist will say. Further she seems to be scared that a tree will smash her fence, her child will get out and be hit by a car. Better to keep this fear, blame the trees, cut everything down and have a nice little nut tree or something else small and under her control. Besides that don't people have the right to do what they want on thier own property. No damn tree huggers should be dictating to somebody who owns property.

I really think she has made her mind up.
 
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Besides that don't people have the right to do what they want on thier own property. No damn tree huggers should be dictating to somebody who owns property.

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That's a big 10-4 there, brother.
 
Actually I believe it was God who gave us the mandate to detroy not only the world, but more importantly our own back yard. Damn the trees, full speed ahead.
 
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I really think she has made her mind up.

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The postings are signed 'Brent' and Brent has stated that they don't have the money for removals.

Details do count...so pay attention bro.
 
You are right it is Brent, but he has never said he does not have the money for removals he said "Of course, I haven't raised the money to drop them yet :-) so we'll see." which appears to me that the movey will be found for removals and his mind has already been made up.
 
I don't think we are jumping to conclusions, some of us may be trying to make a point.

In all likelihood this person is looking to find the best price to remove trees and most tree companies are going to respond with a price for removal. The vast majority of companies are not going to walk becasue they believe the trees can stay. As an industry, pruning and removals, are the bread, butter, and gravy of the business.

I have found that when somebody wants a price for removal, that is what they want. They are not interested in advice or what you believe is best for the tree. In a number of cases (probably more than I can even count) I have suggested that the tree remain and be pruned. Invariably the tree is gone within a few weeks by a company who took the work and did not offer what was not asked for.

Yes if we have strong convictions we can walk, but many need the work that is on offer. Maybe an unpleasent decision, but for many people better a day's work than a day not eating. This is an ethical question that we each need to work out ourselves.
 
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Yes if we have strong convictions we can walk, but many need the work that is on offer. Maybe an unpleasent decision, but for many people better a day's work than a day not eating.

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Exactly the reason suggestions for removal from the tree guy standing in your yard should be suspect. Luckily here on the internet we don't have the fuel money and time invested in this request for removals so we are free to give advice unbiased by financial concerns.

We don't know how much this homeowner knows about the value of their trees....that they likely increase the value of their property....and that they have environmental benefits too.

It is a sad fact that many arborist are still in the dark ages and do not question the removing of all trees in an urban back yard.
 
It is a sad fact that many arborist are still in the dark ages and do not question the removing of all trees in an urban back yard.


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Agreed, mrtree. I usually question folks when I feel their removal request may be unjustified. Tactful discussions of the benefits of trees, and how diagnosis, care-both short and long term, can help a potential client be more informed of all the options, and costs.

Here in the PNW, even without windstorms influencing tree owner's decisions, there is always a plethora of tree removals. Too many, for sure. But many are justified, as we all know.....

Back to the exact thread topic, though, I have to agree, $2500 a tree for those smallish pines is ludicrous. Even if they had to be pieced down and all the brush dragged out front to a chipper, it shouldn't take more than 2 days for a crew of 5...that's $6000 or so out here. Loblolly pines are open canopied, unlike many pines out here, where one tree can produce 15-40 yards of chips. And, if the fence can be removed, and the trees dropped in log length or craned out, then the work is easier, and the timber sale can further lessen the monetary shock. Plus, acceptance of some repairable lawn and landscape damage is a given.

I have one bad tree to remove soon that will take close to a day to do, and that's if we can access it with a 60 ton crane...problem is, it's for a good customer who is sadly in declining health and I want to keep the price near $4000, which will be hard with a 60 tonner. The tree was topped 30 years ago or more...and has been thinned by me twice since then, but lost a top onto a neighbor's roof last storm...dang near reached a teenager's bed as it punctured the ceiling. With some branches starting out at nearly 20 inches thick and sweeping up 60 feet, it is probably as labor intensive as 5 of those loblollies.
 
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