Health / Fitness and Nutrition Thread

[climbingmonkey24]

No one’s offended, you flatter yourself.

You do that a lot.

So now you’re accusing me of being insincere?

Just because I may have a different opinion doesn’t mean I think I’m superior. But please feel free to elaborate.

 

[Mick Dempsey]

How long do I have to wait for the last draft of your post?

It changes minute on minute.

 

[Dan Cobb]

I don't see the sad physical condition of the average American as any evidence of flawed nutritional guidelines. I think it has more to do with the average daily intake of over 3600 calories and average of 2 hours/week of physical activity. I also think the 43% of our population that consumes low calorie sweetners are erroneously believing zero calories means zero biological effects. ("I lost all the weight by just switching to diet soda" said no one ever.)

 

[Reach]

Who eats egg substitutes? What is that?

I don’t eat the stuff, but happened to be at the grocery store this evening and took a picture of one in the egg aisle. This one happens to have some egg whites in it, but is yellow in the jug.

There are also plant-based versions made with Mung bean and a list of ingredients I can’t pronounce, I did not photograph those. I won’t eat them either.

 

[Dan Cobb]

Better'n Eggs reminds me of That's Not Yogurt.

 

[rico]

I have grandparents who were kids earlier than that, and their generation was lean too. But they also ate whole eggs, cooked with lard or real butter, drank real whole milk, ate bacon, only went to the doctor if they needed to. And they were healthy. They of course were active as well.

Yes exercise plays a role, yes the quality of food plays a role, but so does the food itself.

The dietary recommendations mentioned multiple times in this thread that favor carbs while suggesting to limit fat were introduced around that time in the 1900s, and studies have been done that have linked the rise in obesity and other health problems with the introduction of those recommendations.

Nowadays, people eat egg whites, egg substitutes, fake butter because it’s low fat, low fat milk, low fat this...all stuff that has been processed and altered and has less nutritional value then eating the actual REAL food because they have been led to believe that fat is bad.

I’m not saying this to try and push a certain way of thinking or narrative, it’s just food for thought.

Some people are interested in this stuff and some people may not be. Perfectly fine by me. Health / fitness happens to be my lifestyle and something I am very passionate about, so I go out of my way to read and research this stuff.

i was gonna keep my mouth shut, but in the spirit of keeping you from doing something stupid and injuring yourself I am gonna tell you a little story son...About 3 weeks ago I was out in the woods doing my thing when all of the sudden I went completely blind in my right eye.. I managed to get myself back to my truck and make the hour long drive to the hospital. Turns out the carotid artery on the right side was 70-75% blocked, and I threw a clot into my right eye.



WTF? I am fucking stud. A lean mean fighting machine. How the hell could this happen to me? I'll tell you how. A diet centered around red meats, butter/ghee, whole cream, skin on poultry, coconut oil, pork, eggs, etc. In other words a diet extremely high in all those saturated fats and cholesterol that some will try and tell you is perfectly healthy.

Thankfully this was a warning shot for me, and the clot didn't get to my brain. The surgery went really well, and through MRI's, Ct scan's, and echocardiogram's it appears the rest of me is GTG.. My eyesight has returned to normal and I am back at work, but I am forever changed. A lifestyle and dietary change? A fucking understatement...

Please take some advice from an old timer who has made more mistakes in his life than he cares to remember...Before you embark on a diet that goes against common wisdom make damn sure that you know whether your genetics are up to the task. Your life my depend on it...

 

[VenasNursery]

i was gonna keep my mouth shut, but in the spirit of keeping you from doing something stupid and injuring yourself I am gonna tell you a little story son...About 3 weeks ago I was out in the woods doing my thing when all of the sudden I went completely blind in my right eye.. I managed to get myself back to my truck and make the hour long drive to the hospital. Turns out the carotid artery on the right side was 70-75% blocked, and I threw a clot into my right eye.

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WTF? I am fucking stud. A lean mean fighting machine. How the hell could this happen to me? I'll tell you how. A diet centered around red meats, butter/ghee, whole cream, skin on poultry, coconut oil, pork, eggs, etc. In other words a diet extremely high in all those saturated fats and cholesterol that some will try and tell you is perfectly healthy.

Thankfully this was a warning shot for me, and the clot didn't get to my brain. The surgery went really well, and through MRI's, Ct scan's, and echocardiogram's it appears the rest of me is GTG.. My eyesight has returned to normal and I am back at work, but I am forever changed. A lifestyle and dietary change? A fucking understatement...

Please take some advice from an old timer who has made more mistakes in his life than he cares to remember...Before you embark on a diet that goes against common wisdom make damn sure that you know whether your genetics are up to the task. Your life my depend on it...

Holy cow Sir !
Sounds like you’re very lucky!
Glad you healed up back to normal jeez that seems pretty scary

 

[rico]

Holy cow Sir !
Sounds like you’re very lucky!
Glad you healed up back to normal jeez that seems pretty scary

Thanks Venas. Certainly a scary wake up call for me.

Certain individuals here are trying to sell all meat carnivore diets or diets high in saturated fats so I felt i needed to share real word consequences that can result from following extreme diets like these. No YouTube video necessary...

 

[Mick Dempsey]

Scary stuff.
Nice stitching though!

 

[treebing]

wow Rico glad your on the mend. What does your diet involve now? I remember @Tom Dunlap had a heart attack a few years ago and he also was a lean and strong before it happened. Ive met a few tree folks that have had heart issues like that.

 

[rico]

Thanks Kevin. Some parts of my diet will remain the same, and some will drastically change.. Still eating our home fermented foods, sprouted grains, and homegrown vegis and fruits, but giving up on all the animal based saturated fats and oils. Out with the red meats and in with more fish, beans, avocado's, nuts, seeds, skinless poultry, and hemp protein for extra protein. I will also continue to consume a few eggs a week from our chickens. Out with the buckets of ghee/ butter, coconut oil, and full fat goat milk products (except a splash of whole cream in my morning cup o coffee), and in with more olive, avocado, sesame, walnut, and flax seed oil. We will also continue to do our best to have a zero processed foods policy.

The wife and I are basically going back to the way we ate for decades. Somehow we got hoodwinked into following these high animal protein, high fat centric diets that are all the rage these days. A decade or so later and it was fixing to fucking kill me. These type of diets may work for some, but in the wrong hands they can have disastrous results. Again I go back to genetics. We are all unique individuals and nowadays we have the tools that can give us a basic dietary roadmap as to what is more likely to work for us and what is not.

 

[JD3000]

Glad to hear you're better. Been doing a Mediterranean low carb thing for a while and has done me right. Beef and pork are a special treat these days.

Hope you get even better Rico!