Had to treat a local arborist at the ER today...

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if the cut was to the back of the leg what would chaps do?

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Keep the saw from coming out the front.
 
I heard of a guy who cut himself about a year ago. He tripped while holding the saw and the saw bounced twice on his leg.

They probably had to reattach a lot of tendons since the cut was behind the knee. Ouch!
 
"But one-handing because you can't be bothered or are too much in a rush to get a really good work position is a really common way that people mess up. "

really Frax ? Thats not why people mess up . Let the Class begin . I one hand in great position and never in too much of a hurry . Try and keep the saw blade off of your skin and keep the blood intact . Loss of blood is bad . People mess up because they are messed up . Sometimes you need to throw , chuck , push or just be cool . One hand two hand , stop . Personally in all the years I have been doing tree work I can count on one hand how many people I know who cut themselves . worry about cancer , one or two hands , hold onto that saw , fk the one hand police ! non productive liars ! Red on Wood No good !
 
Yay Riggs, way to stand up for one-handers worldwide. I won't condone one-handing myself except in extreme situations - like yesterday when I had a less than awesome ground crew with a long snowy drag in the rain so I decided to go way out on limbs and cut small so's they wouldn't have to do any rigging or cutting on the ground. Every once in a while I would have to reach way out to make the4 small cut - always well away from my body parts though and very controlled position w/my lanyard, rope, and magic shoes.

Never ever will I cut with one hand anywhere near my body, especially behind my legs or feet - now that's rushing and totally unnecessary.

But we have once again digressed into a one-handing discussion when we don't even know the true nature of the incident, I assume he was really cut by an arrogant lead climber who was carelessly swinging the stumping saw around during ground ops - just my assumption, I could be wrong.
 
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"But one-handing because you can't be bothered or are too much in a rush to get a really good work position is a really common way that people mess up. "

really Frax ? Thats not why people mess up . Let the Class begin . I one hand in great position and never in too much of a hurry ....

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Jumping to conclusions here Riggs, just because I made a no-no comment about one handing?. I'm not the hands police. I don't care if you one hand in great position and never in too much of a hurry or not. Lots of guys do. I'm not arguing about that. I'm saying that lots of people mess up because they one-handed in a position they shouldn't have.

I have no idea whether that was the case here. Seems unlikely since it was a cut to the back of the leg.
 
Like Frax said, back of the leg, doesn't really matter whether he was wearing saw protection or not. Personally I wear Pfanner's in the tree but I believe that chaps in the tree are actually more of a hazard. I'm seeing this accident as kickback while cutting below and behind himself in a tree. Bad positioning, is bad positioning, one handed or not.
 
wyoclimber "I believe that chaps in the tree are actually more of a hazard" can you prove that at all, I have never read of any tree worker hurt or harmed by wearing chaps in the tree. I wear them in the tree and never had any problems.
 
Getting your chaps caught on a stub when you must move outta there in a hurry.

The sleek smooth climber lives longer in this biz!

jomoco
 
Seems I remember, when at one of the arboriculture classes at the Vermeer dealer, that when cutting a face with a big saw, it could kick back around your body and get your hamstring. Didn't think much of it at the time but do y'all think it's possible?
 
Probably possible, but my shin stopped it before it got that far.
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I wear pfanner gladiator chainsaw pants in the tree. Have always worn CS pants when climbing. The Stihl and Husky pants would always split at the crotch. Still wouldn't climb without them.
 
Our company policy..

- wear Chainsaw pro... (All of it)
- then pick up chainsaw.


simple.. easy to remember.... easy to train.. becomes second nature...

Can't be an arborist if you don't wear the uniform.
 
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...I believe that chaps in the tree are actually more of a hazard"

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can you prove that at all

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He's stating a belief, his opinion, no need to prove.



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I have never read of any tree worker hurt or harmed by wearing chaps in the tree. I wear them in the tree and never had any problems.

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Just because it didn't happen to you doesn't mean it won't. This is faulty reasoning. Just because a person has never been cut while grabbing the bar of a running chainsaw, even with the chainbrake on, doesn't mean that this is an accepted practice.

I've never liked seeing climbers wearing chaps in trees or groundies wearing them while chipping. They can get snagged.

My preference is to have climbers wear CP pants not chaps. But, I've found that what I think and know about safe practices isn't appreciated by some people. Too bad.
 
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Our company policy..

- wear Chainsaw pro... (All of it)
- then pick up chainsaw.


simple.. easy to remember.... easy to train.. becomes second nature...

Can't be an arborist if you don't wear the uniform.

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Well said!
 
Jomoco,
Thanks for the link.. those are really cool looking... roboarb...

Did you have knee injuries? or are you wearing them to prevent knee injuries?

Thanks,
Mark
 
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