groundie kebab

I was taught, if the saw runs, you run.
If you get hit, it's your fault.

Now as a climber I know why, some times you can't see wtf is going on, and people are sneaky with out knowing it.

One guy I used to work with always said the climber was responsible for letting everyone know. He got hit as my groundie one day and freaked out on me. I asked him to show me the piece that hit him...no cut mark, it was a dead hanger that just happen to fall.

Yesterday I was thinning a 90'+ white pine crown and could not see the ground. Cut limbs were getting hung all over...so no sounds from above when I was working on unhanging them free. Me and the two groundies had our head sets on the whole time, so they could tell me when they were under me and when they were not. So much safer then wondering, hoping, and yelling the whole time.
 
I was taught, if the saw runs, you run.
If you get hit, it's your fault.

Now as a climber I know why, some times you can't see wtf is going on, and people are sneaky with out knowing it.

One guy I used to work with always said the climber was responsible for letting everyone know. He got hit as my groundie one day and freaked out on me. I asked him to show me the piece that hit him...no cut mark, it was a dead hanger that just happen to fall.

Yesterday I was thinning a 90'+ white pine crown and could not see the ground. Cut limbs were getting hung all over...so no sounds from above when I was working on unhanging them free. Me and the two groundies had our head sets on the whole time, so they could tell me when they were under me and when they were not. So much safer then wondering, hoping, and yelling the whole time.
Yes headsets sound amazing, have to convince my boss on that one. I was in a bunch of cedars the other day and couldn't see below me and had a new grounds. It sucks shouting back and fourth. It is amazing though how many people just wonder into a dz without even taking a glance above the horizon.
 
I was taught, if the saw runs, you run.
If you get hit, it's your fault.

Now as a climber I know why, some times you can't see wtf is going on, and people are sneaky with out knowing it.

One guy I used to work with always said the climber was responsible for letting everyone know. He got hit as my groundie one day and freaked out on me. I asked him to show me the piece that hit him...no cut mark, it was a dead hanger that just happen to fall.

Yesterday I was thinning a 90'+ white pine crown and could not see the ground. Cut limbs were getting hung all over...so no sounds from above when I was working on unhanging them free. Me and the two groundies had our head sets on the whole time, so they could tell me when they were under me and when they were not. So much safer then wondering, hoping, and yelling the whole time.
Yes headsets sound amazing, have to convince my boss on that one. I was in a bunch of cedars the other day and couldn't see below me and had a new grounds. It sucks shouting back and fourth. It is amazing though how many people just wonder into a dz without even taking a glance above the horizon.
 
This whole convincing thing....

Go around with a dull saw all day, see where you get. Selling over anything, much more so with lots of loud engines around, and you are doing the same thing... But it's a dull communication and teamwork plan. Higher stress, higher risk, harder to drive/hitch up/ back into tight places, which saves labor, ...
 

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