Grivel Salamander helmet
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We have one for one of my crew members and I have seen a couple of issues with ours, the internal portion is padded by foam versus a suspention style which I don't think will provide as much protection with a bigger bump, also I had to glue the padding back in which means the padding may shift during wear and not provide the protection you would want. I wear the Petzel Ecrin Roc and love it, one of my guys wears the other Petzel (vent?) and it seems to work well plus has the attatchments for muffs and visor (I found this set up to be a bit heavy so when you looked up with out the muffs on your ears it slid back on your head and choked a bit) Hope that helps!
countryboypa31
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- PA
i also have this problem with the petzel with the earmuffs. I always keep mine down otherwise i don't like the helmet, another thing i don't like is the adjustment in the back. I use this as my ground helmet because of the earmuffs, but in the tree i use the petzel ecrin rock i believe i'll have to check that, but i love the side adjustments, it holds my head a lot better and sits lower on my head which is WAY more comfortable. If you find a picture of the Grivel Salamander helmet post it. I'm constantly looking at different helmets, as the current ones i use are my bosses and i feel i should own my own.
- Location
- Suburb of Motown, U.S.A.
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If you find a picture of the Grivel Salamander helmet post it.
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They're not scarce:
Grivel Salamander
If you find a picture of the Grivel Salamander helmet post it.
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They're not scarce:
Grivel Salamander
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
Make sure that it meets ANSI regs.
It is a good looking helmet.
Those are some wicked fall-arrest poles in the lower pic 436. I don't think that I would ski anyplace where I felt that I needed fall-arrest poles. That would be a deal-breaker for me~~~
It is a good looking helmet.
Those are some wicked fall-arrest poles in the lower pic 436. I don't think that I would ski anyplace where I felt that I needed fall-arrest poles. That would be a deal-breaker for me~~~
NickfromWI
Participating member
- Location
- Los Angeles, CA
Judging by her gloves, I don't think she's skiing anywhere!
I think that helmet would be HOT to wear. Not much in the wya of ventilation, and it's probably foam lined like my petzl meteor III, which is basically insulation on your head.
love
nick
I think that helmet would be HOT to wear. Not much in the wya of ventilation, and it's probably foam lined like my petzl meteor III, which is basically insulation on your head.
love
nick
- Location
- Suburb of Motown, U.S.A.
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Those are some wicked fall-arrest poles ... I don't think that I would ski anyplace where I felt that I needed fall-arrest poles.
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When trekking across snow fields, a mountaineering axe (piolet)
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=1&id=3
as opposed to the shorter technical ice axes
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=2&id=12
is used to self-arrest a slide (fall) down the slope.
The pick on those poles are foldable (retractable).
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=1&id=11
and is used when the climber is using 2 (retractable) ski-type poles for balance. Obvioulsy, it wouldn't be practical to have two poles <u>and</u> a piolet, so they've integrated a piolet pick into the handle. You would keep it retracted when doing any skiing, off-piste or otherwise.
Those are some wicked fall-arrest poles ... I don't think that I would ski anyplace where I felt that I needed fall-arrest poles.
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When trekking across snow fields, a mountaineering axe (piolet)
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=1&id=3
as opposed to the shorter technical ice axes
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=2&id=12
is used to self-arrest a slide (fall) down the slope.
The pick on those poles are foldable (retractable).
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=1&id=11
and is used when the climber is using 2 (retractable) ski-type poles for balance. Obvioulsy, it wouldn't be practical to have two poles <u>and</u> a piolet, so they've integrated a piolet pick into the handle. You would keep it retracted when doing any skiing, off-piste or otherwise.
here are the two (ecrin roc and grivel) notice the suspension straps on the petzl, seems I have read somewhere that the straps are the standard. I looked to see if I could find the specifics on Anzi helmet standards can only find that head protection "conforms to ansi z89.1" These are both CE certified but here is an interest thread on that http://www.rockandice.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=122
- Location
- Suburb of Motown, U.S.A.
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Not much in the wya of ventilation, and it's probably foam lined like my petzl meteor III, which is basically insulation on your head.
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Most bicycle helmets operate on the concept of a one-hit helmet. Micro shell on an Expanded Polystyrene (EPS) shell. The EPS absorbs the energy of the impact by crushing or breaking and should be replaced afterward. However, this is usually a body hitting the deck with quite a bit of force. It's not intended for a bunch of small hits. Plus, the more-holes-than-helmet design
would not be well-suited to treework with all of the branches!
For multiple impacts, use the skateboard helmet concept: thick plastic shell with EPS energy absorbing layer.
The third concept is the industrial hardhat concept: thick plastic shell with suspension to absorb the energy.
Fourth concept is really just a modification of the third - climbing helmet: thick plastic shell with suspension to absorb the energy plus a chin strap.
I'm sure by way of ANSI and Snell etc., it's all much more complicated than this.
From the horse's mouth:
Salamander: ABS Shell, Polystyrene foam interior
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=11&id=89
Oooh, purdy!
The hot new climbing helmet for 2008?
Now this is the cat's a**!
The Gladiator:
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=11&id=90
Not much in the wya of ventilation, and it's probably foam lined like my petzl meteor III, which is basically insulation on your head.
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Most bicycle helmets operate on the concept of a one-hit helmet. Micro shell on an Expanded Polystyrene (EPS) shell. The EPS absorbs the energy of the impact by crushing or breaking and should be replaced afterward. However, this is usually a body hitting the deck with quite a bit of force. It's not intended for a bunch of small hits. Plus, the more-holes-than-helmet design
would not be well-suited to treework with all of the branches!
For multiple impacts, use the skateboard helmet concept: thick plastic shell with EPS energy absorbing layer.
The third concept is the industrial hardhat concept: thick plastic shell with suspension to absorb the energy.
Fourth concept is really just a modification of the third - climbing helmet: thick plastic shell with suspension to absorb the energy plus a chin strap.
I'm sure by way of ANSI and Snell etc., it's all much more complicated than this.
From the horse's mouth:
Salamander: ABS Shell, Polystyrene foam interior
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=11&id=89
Oooh, purdy!
The hot new climbing helmet for 2008?
Now this is the cat's a**!
The Gladiator:
http://www.grivelnorthamerica.com/products.php?gid=11&id=90
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
The Glad' could save teeth and face damage...I can think of more than one time when something like that facemask would have been welcome.
- Location
- Suburb of Motown, U.S.A.
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The Glad' could save teeth and face damage...I can think of more than one time when something like that facemask would have been welcome.
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Some wire mesh to keep out the saw chips and we'd be talkin'
The Glad' could save teeth and face damage...I can think of more than one time when something like that facemask would have been welcome.
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Some wire mesh to keep out the saw chips and we'd be talkin'
- Location
- Suburb of Motown, U.S.A.
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The Glad' could save teeth and face damage...I can think of more than one time when something like that facemask would have been welcome.
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Some wire mesh to keep out the saw chips and we'd be talkin'
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Now we're getting somewhere!
Start here:
Giro Slalom (ski) chin bar:
or this:
Rainy days?:
At least this one is removable:
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The Glad' could save teeth and face damage...I can think of more than one time when something like that facemask would have been welcome.
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Some wire mesh to keep out the saw chips and we'd be talkin'
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Now we're getting somewhere!
Start here:
Giro Slalom (ski) chin bar:
or this:
Rainy days?:
At least this one is removable:
- Location
- Retired in Minneapolis
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Judging by her gloves, I don't think she's skiing anywhere!
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That looks like The Grand Teton summits in the background.
I've skied in nothing more than a layer of medium weight poly underwear and gym shorts. Fun to do that once in a while!
Judging by her gloves, I don't think she's skiing anywhere!
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That looks like The Grand Teton summits in the background.
I've skied in nothing more than a layer of medium weight poly underwear and gym shorts. Fun to do that once in a while!
- Location
- Suburb of Motown, U.S.A.
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That looks like The Grand Teton summits in the background.
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Possibly, but Grivel is based in Chamonix, France, so I'd lean toward the French Alps.
That looks like The Grand Teton summits in the background.
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Possibly, but Grivel is based in Chamonix, France, so I'd lean toward the French Alps.
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- sunny Madison, WI
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