Fu*%face Von Clownstick

I posted this on my facebook page:

War mongers don't get mulligans... It's bewildering to see my maga friends still supporting Trump. That's not America first.. This war is a disaster. WORLDWIDE DISASTER. The damage done to the world fuel supply cannot be undone anytime soon. It's not just oil and natural gas... it's fertilizer... famine coming... what Trump is doing to Cuba is a crime against humanity. And it's just a matter if time until thise chickens come home to roost.
The national debt is about to hit runaway interest. Inflation will destroy the middle class life savings. The AI infrastructure used to track down immigrants will be turned against citizens.
The moral decline of this entire society is fully apparent. Killing those Iranian school girls was no accident. Killing the leadership and negotiators was no accident. This war is complete violation of international law.
So it's time to call you for what you are. ANYONE THAT SUPPORTS TRUMP IS A WAR MONGER. AND KARMA IS AS REAL AS GRAVITY

 
and this from a few days ago:

I will never understand how my Christian friends support the unjustifiable and unprovoked attack on Iran. War mongers don't get mulligans. I condem anyone that supports the attacks in Iran. Your stupidity is astounding. Have you learned nothing from history? How can you fall for this totoal garbage propaganda which is so obvious, and so much reminiscent of the complete fabrications of WMDs used to sell the Iraq war to the American people.
Your minds have been twisted. All war is an abomination to God and those that celebrate the suffering of civilians will weep as the karma of their war mongering comes back to them. The trillions of dollars spent by the USA to fight the enemies of Israel has caused run-away infaltion. Your hard earned life-saving will vanish like dust in the wind. Your children will have nothing.
The hippies stood up to the governemt to stop the war in Vietnam, another crime against humanity, intentionally perpetrated by the military industrial complex who used a falsified story as an excuse to instigate their illegal attacks. The result of this war mongering was 3 million dead in southeast Asia. The suffering is unimaginable. Have you no comapssion? These are human beings gettign slaughtered, women and children.
Your support for this war just emboldens the war mongers to keep going. And with their blood-lust unchecked, please don't be surprised when they come for you and the people you love.

 
i think the present world order up to 2017 was the closest we had to one world government and maybe the closest we'll ever be. the post-ww2 international order and economy kept concentrating power and money further and further to the united states making it the wealthiest country in the history of the world. bretton woods made the dollar the prime economic unit of the planet, and when it ended the dollar was already entrenched as the basis of the oil economy. developing countries were prevented from protecting their local economies and natural resources by organizations like the imf, world bank and wto because it would have represented 'unfair restriction' of markets and international capital, so they remained under the thumb of western money. and when countries tried to get out from underneath that western money and seek self-determination, they were subjected to western-sponsored unrest, assassinations, and violent overthrow.

barack obama spent eight years trying to smooth relations in western asia so that the united states could refocus money and effort toward preventing the rise of china as a competing superpower which could threaten the global hegemony of the united states. the obama admin worked with the european powers to successfully negotiate a nuclear deal with iran, which they abided by! all the while china was the big concern because if they could offer an alternative on the global stage for developing economies to do an end run around the united states, that would imperil america's power both economically and diplomatically. thats why there was such a big push under obama to make deals with pacific countries, to try and encircle china and limit their ability to project soft and hard power. clinton ran for election on controlling and confronting china, but the continual squeeze on ordinary americans who had put up with seeing the financial crisis benefit the rich while the 'hope' obama had supposedly embodied evaporated under eight years of betrayal staffing his administration with private industry figures, eliminating the possibilities of medicare for all, continuing to tolerate war hawks like clinton who blew up libya increasing the migrant crisis in europe, etc ad infinitum made for a disgruntled populace who didnt have the interests of the beltway class in mind. so she lost to americas second most famous pedophile and reality tv star donald trump.

the pictures of trump on election night 2016 are incredible, everyone around him is ecstatic and he looks stunned. he just wanted to grift and clinton was such a bad candidate, her political party so arrogant, out of touch and ossified that she lost to him. he was not anticipating this, he was looking forward to years of roasting her and all her stupid decisions on twitter and how the election was stolen to sell more trump branded goods. so trump takes over in 2017 and largely seems to rely on his advisors and administration. things dont change that much at first but over a few years global alliances are badly rattled, he pulls america out of many organizations that are the foundation of american soft power abroad. he even pulls out of the iran nuclear deal unilaterally against the wishes of the rest of the western powers, leaving iran in a dire economic position but also without the limits the deal imposed on them. and suddenly the idea of america as the most powerful country in the world seems shaky. the shitshow of the 2020 election barely puts biden in power and he sleepwalks through four years basically doing more obama admin stuff, no real changes to better american's lives but just slowly squeezing everybody while largely continuing trump foreign policy, except for apologizing to all the allies and trying to get everyone to focus on china again. but then russia attacks ukraine so the americans have to split their attention there. and then israel genocides gaza, but biden supports it wholeheartedly. so wholeheartedly that it costs kamala harris the 2024 election! whoops! your idiot consultants werent playing delegate math! you couldnt spare those few hundred thousand votes in arab- and muslim-heavy districts. nice one losers.

so now trump is president once again and having been through this before hes now much more comfortable doing whatever he feels like and theres a nice blueprint drafted by a bunch of right wing ideologues about how to finally shatter the hated federal government. and they start doing it! the entire post-ww2 order, seventy-odd years of america consolidating global power, forty of those basically running the world unopposed since the collapse of the soviet union, all being attacked at its foundations by people who dont realize how they became so rich in the first place. academic institutions that put america on top globally of science and technology and staffed the financial institutions, the think tanks, the cia, the bureaucracy, that put out the very people who ensure america stays on top to the detriment of anyone else! all of those are attacked for base cable news culture war reasons. the bureaucracy itself that ensures america functions and pumps money into the economy is cracked in half. the funding for foreign health and economic projects which give america tremendous influence in countries across the world is cut off because spending money on non-american lives is a waste of taxpayer money. taxes are also cut while spending increases as the pittance of cut social programs (which provide long-term dollar value far in excess of their immediate costs) doesnt make up for the vast increase in military spending.

if ever there was a time a world government could have happened, it would have been under the most wealthy and powerful country ever, the united states of america circa 1990-2016. but due to ideology the rich have chosen the destruction of american federalism in the hopes of creating a sort of techno-feudalism. it seems far more likely the world will return to a multi-polar competing power situation. i can see the union disintegrating into various states with varying levels of corporate totalitarianism, but the rest of the world wont be following. nobody else has the ability to take over the world.
 
sadly the democrats would rather the war continue at least until mid-terms as it and the economic consequences are politically bad for trump, so dem leadership will hold off doing anything that could throw up a roadblock at it until november. how well that will sit with voters on democratic credibility come election time is questionable, but the great thing about the america is the two parties have basically carved the state and federal electoral systems between them. so the dems can sit on their thumbs, promise nothing to the people and wait. win/win!
 
Holy $hit, listening to Trump mumble his way through this news conference; someone needs to get a hook and yank him off stage. Sounds like he's telling stories to his grandchildren. My local station cut away after 20 minutes of blathering., lol.
 
bobs yeruncle said:
sadly the democrats would rather the war continue at least until mid-terms as it and the economic consequences are politically bad for trump, so dem leadership will hold off doing anything that could throw up a roadblock at it until november. how well that will sit with voters on democratic credibility come election time is questionable, but the great thing about the america is the two parties have basically carved the state and federal electoral systems between them. so the dems can sit on their thumbs, promise nothing to the people and wait. win/win!
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Are you insane? Must be because everything you say is ass-backwards. No wonder you like crump.
 
If I were an Iranian leader, I'd point all my bombs at Israel, until they cried Uncle.

And I'd save the biggest bombs for BB, Bozo, and Kushner--those murderous bastards. If there was an all-powerful god, those three would have been dead decades ago. MotherFXXXers!

Killing Palestinians to build hotels, while showing Powerpoint presentations of their future Gaza developments! Board of Peace, my ass. More like Realtor.com!

Does Israel have a right to exist? Yes--within their land boundaries. But so does everyone else.
 
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bobs yeruncle said:
'a sane person to an insane society must seem insane' -kurt vonnegut
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Oh, I'm sorry; please forgive my impertinence. I didn't realize that--out of all the starving, threatened, and tortured humans in the world--you (and Kurt Vonnegut, a man who suffered from life-long depression) are the only "sane" beings.

And, NO, the Democrats did not start this "insane" war--and they have no interest in prolonging it until the election. Believe me, the republicans don't need any further help in destroying their reputations, for an increasing number of citizens now see through their despicable, and in-many-cases-immoral-and-illegal, actions.

Meanwhile, I prefer Norma Rae-type and Thomas Massie-type efforts to right wrongs by exercising their Constitutional rights.

Please remember that it was Biden who allotted funds for daycare during COVID, so parents could get back to work. These days, the "president" disavows any responsibility for such societal support systems--including school lunches for deserving children. My teacher neighbor has many underfed students in her classrooms--while the president's family reaps billions on live TV.

All I ask is that you stop defending fascists and see for yourself who is truly to blame for OUR innumerable problems.
 
JCB said:
Oh, I'm sorry; please forgive my impertinence. I didn't realize that--out of all the starving, threatened, and tortured humans in the world--you (and Kurt Vonnegut, a man who suffered from life-long depression) are the only "sane" beings.

And, NO, the Democrats did not start this "insane" war--and they have no interest in prolonging it until the election. Believe me, the republicans don't need any further help in destroying their reputations, for an increasing number of citizens now see through their despicable, and in-many-cases-immoral-and-illegal, actions.

Meanwhile, I prefer Norma Rae-type and Thomas Massie-type efforts to right wrongs by exercising their Constitutional rights.

Please remember that it was Biden who allotted funds for daycare during COVID, so parents could get back to work. These days, the "president" disavows any responsibility for such societal support systems--including school lunches for deserving children. My teacher neighbor has many underfed students in her classrooms--while the president's family reaps billions on live TV.

All I ask is that you stop defending fascists and see for yourself who is truly to blame for OUR innumerable problems.
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I dunno bud, I think you may have glossed over what Bob actually wrote, but from what I read, he isn't defending fascists. He is simply calling out both major parties as the piles of shit they both are. One may smell less foul to some, but everyone knows both are rotting, and neither is steering us away from the variety show of impending disasters.
 
Matias said:
One may smell less foul to some, but everyone knows both are rotting, and neither is steering us away from the variety show of impending disasters.
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OK, thanks, Matias.

I accept the degradation and unethical aspects of both parties--and their personal focus on self-aggrandizement. But I disagree that they are equally culpable in undermining our society (and now, the world).

My father and my uncles--in their generation--could (at the top of their lungs) argue about the merits and faults of two "equal" parties--both of which cared about America, its people, and its laws. That is not so today.

The Dems (along with judges, generals, inspectors general, historians) have generally attempted to support (or appropriately amend) the Constitution. The Reps, in general, have supported crump's disastrous actions--either through active votes or through cowardly submission to the Bully-in Charge. (For which, I believe they are already paying the price.)

I point to Marc Elias, whose law firm fights daily to uphold our laws and free-election protections. That firm (which won most of the sixty 2020 election-denial cases) seldom goes up against Dems in court--only Reps. In my mind, that precludes any idea that the parties are equally, and defeats any argument that it's the Dems who are using the War for political advantage--or to defeat our electoral system.

PS: The Dems did not write--and execute--Project 2025.
 
JCB said:
OK, thanks, Matias.

I accept the degradation and unethical aspects of both parties--and their personal focus on self-aggrandizement. But I disagree that they are equally culpable in undermining our society (and now, the world).

My father and my uncles--in their generation--could (at the top of their lungs) argue about the merits and faults of two "equal" parties--both of which cared about America, its people, and its laws. That is not so today.

The Dems (along with judges, generals, inspectors general, historians) have generally attempted to support (or appropriately amend) the Constitution. The Reps, in general, have supported crump's disastrous actions--either through active votes or through cowardly submission to the Bully-in Charge. (For which, I believe they are already paying the price.)

I point to Marc Elias, whose law firm fights daily to uphold our laws and free-election protections. That firm (which won most of the sixty 2020 election-denial cases) seldom goes up against Dems in court--only Reps. In my mind, that precludes any idea that the parties are equally, and defeats any argument that it's the Dems who are using the War for political advantage--or to defeat our electoral system.

PS: The Dems did not write--and execute--Project 2025.
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Except that the dems have promoted the status quo for decades, and worse yet, they empowered many of the now fabulously wealthy who have switched sides in the last several years.

Under Obama, the tech companies, who talked some good talk back then, took over the world. Where were the dems when the tech giants became too big to control? They were getting rich trading the stocks of those companies and encouraging the deepening of the inequities that have furthered the cause of the mega rich, who now support the dumpster fire.

Just because the red team is more overt in their bullshit, doesn't mean that the blue team wasn't playing the game. The dems certainly pay a lot of lipservice to good ideas, but they are largely ineffective, and love to hold up small victories like they are indications of the bigger picture they are painting. I agree that they are the less shitty team, but they played into the situation too, and to argue that they have not contributed significantly to many problems is simply naive.

If they would have utilized the opportunity back when they held the House, Senate, and Presidency, they could have maybe started steering the ship in a better direction, but they waffled, and said that they didn't wanna take any political risks.

Oh yea, even further back, who let the big banks off the hook in '08? Gotta step back and look at the bigger picture.
 
Matias said:
Except that the dems have promoted the status quo for decades, and worse yet, they empowered many of the now fabulously wealthy who have switched sides in the last several years.

Under Obama, the tech companies, who talked some good talk back then, took over the world. Where were the dems when the tech giants became too big to control? They were getting rich trading the stocks of those companies and encouraging the deepening of the inequities that have furthered the cause of the mega rich, who now support the dumpster fire.

Just because the red team is more overt in their bullshit, doesn't mean that the blue team wasn't playing the game. The dems certainly pay a lot of lipservice to good ideas, but they are largely ineffective, and love to hold up small victories like they are indications of the bigger picture they are painting. I agree that they are the less shitty team, but they played into the situation too, and to argue that they have not contributed significantly to many problems is simply naive.

If they would have utilized the opportunity back when they held the House, Senate, and Presidency, they could have maybe started steering the ship in a better direction, but they waffled, and said that they didn't wanna take any political risks.

Oh yea, even further back, who let the big banks off the hook in '08? Gotta step back and look at the bigger picture.
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I'll concede to most of the historical events that you list; they have been endlessly argued and both sides are guilty of similar harmful measures. That said, and as far as I'm concerned, it is what these parties are doing in real-time, today, that matters.

When leaders who condemn and threaten other cultures for their religious beliefs commit war crimes (like killing citizens) in the name of their own gods--I see nothing but hypocrisy and the end of who we thought we were as Americans. For cripes sake, the president is praising Allah (because he thinks it a clever thing to say) and the Sec. of Defense is telling Christian soldiers to pray on their knees while ignoring every non-Christian! That is insanity!

Meanwhile, they speak of those countries' (Venezuela and Iran) in terms of stealing their oil. I cannot get on board with that and (TODAY, not yesteryear) the Dems aren't in charge of the presidency and Congress.

That's all I've got. Stay well.

Perhaps fellows like this can bring about progress:

 
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