Fu*%face Von Clownstick

rico said:
We the American tax payers are now shelling out $1 trillion annually just to pay the interest on our national debt, and it will rise to $1.5 trillion in 2032, and $1.8 trillion by 2035. Trump's defense budget for 2026 is $1 trillion, and he is already calling for a $1.5 trillion defense budget in 2027. Meanwhile he is attempting to pay for all this by ushering in a new era of massive austerity for We the People. You name it, its on the chopping block.

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Trillion-Dollar Interest Payments Are the New Norm | Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget

2025-12-16-As the national debt continues to climb toward record levels – totaling 100% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP) at the end of Fiscal Year (FY) 2025 – interest on the national debt has also risen signi
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While China has a trade surplus of 1.3T this past year…

Glad to hear so many folks here getting riled up about what’s going on. ICE in MN is hitting a new level of fascist government overreach and we all need to be looking out for our neighbors. In watching the videos I notice they usually stand down when it’s a tall white guy yelling at them. So if that’s any of yall…
 
Matias said:
And yet everyone still loves to point to them and say that Communism can't work...
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And they let Cuba sit there 90 miles away for decades. And now Trump goes back on his word (for the millionth time):

U.S. allows Mexico to provide oil to Cuba despite Trump's vow to cut off supply

Despite President Trump's social media pronouncement Sunday that "there will be no more oil or money going to Cuba — zero," the current U.S. policy is to allow Mexico to continue to provide oil to the island, according to Energy Secretary Chris Wright and another U.S. official.

Cuba desperately needs the oil, since Venezuela is no longer supplying it, after Nicolás Maduro's ouster just over a week ago.
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southsoundtree said:
Would you like to live in communist China?

Not me.
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I have no idea what it would be like for me personally, but it seems like they have improved the average quality of life for their people quite a bit in the last 80 years.

I don't approve of authoritarian dictatorships, and don't approve of various other strategies they have utilized, and I would argue that they could have done things differently, but I don't see any way to argue that they have made one of the biggest transformations from impoverished backwater, declining in global importance and power, to an economic superpower, holding a substantial amount of the global wealth. If they hadn't kept the one child policy in place for so long, they might be on course to ever greater heights, but I think their population dynamics will tank them before they can recover from that.

In Europe, the democracies that have implemented increasingly socialist policies seem to be doing really well, and I think a gradual shift in that direction is a reasonable goal to work towards. I get that there is a lot more, if not basically total, homogeneity in those populations, and that is doubtlessly a significant factor working against us in our notoriously tumultuous country. While maybe you could argue that we aren't doing much better than 75 years ago, I don't think you could say that things aren't better than they were 200 years ago, and the rate of progress seems to be increasing.

I don't think it's unreasonable to look at what China has done to become so economically powerful, take notes, and try to figure out how to take the things that work and leave out the parts that most people don't want, no?
 
I just took a MIND TRIP back ten years, to the start of this Fu*%face Von Clownstick thread: https://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/fu-face-von-clownstick.34337/

I promise, no matter how you see yourself today, or envision your future, reading those early posts will enhance your thoughts and feelings.

On Page 1, I spotted treegongfu's post: https://www.treebuzz.com/forum/threads/fu-face-von-clownstick.34337/post-501980

Begging editorial permission, I have quoted here what the seemingly hopeful(?) satisfied(?) treegongfu wrote after the 2016 election:
"I'm glad he is on the record saying he doesn't want continue the aggression against Russia.
But you need to look at who he appoints to key positions to know what his policies will be."

This decade has changed us all in ways no one imagined.
It turns out that--while we humans have soldiered on--we have not escaped unscathed the influences, and counter-influences, of the last ten years. We might not recognize how various traits, fears, and changes have evolved within ourselves. And, if that's true, how are we likely to recognize ourselves in others--and walk in their shoes?
 
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Reach said:
I am not usually one to post in political threads, as I am in the minority here and don’t wish for contention. However, I received a phone call this evening that has prompted a post in this thread.

The family of a former employee of mine (he had to leave trees for a while for health reasons, but he was expecting to get back to it this Spring) called me to ask if I could recommend a lawyer.

My former employee, whom I’ll call Marco, was picked up by ICE back in November. Now mind you, he has a green card he just got last year, after nearly 20 years working in this country and tens of thousands spent on lawyers and paperwork. Therefore, he is legal. He owns a house here, which is paid for. He has a wife and kids here. Owns a paid-for pickup truck here, and has worked and paid taxes here for more than two decades. Seems like the kind of person we should desire to have in this country.

Since he’s been in custody, his family called a lawyer and paid more than $10,000 to help Marco get out. Turns out the lawyer was a scammer, so now they’re pretty well broke as well as missing a husband and father. That makes me just as mad as the fact that ICE picked him up to begin with.

All this makes me want to do something, but there’s not an awful lot I can do besides help his family find a good lawyer and pray that Marco gets out and can get back to work and his family quickly.

I’m against illegal immigration, yes, but I also believe as a Christian that we are responsible to help those who need it, and believe as an American that we need people like Marco in this country. This is a nation of immigrants, let’s not chase all the good ones away!
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I heard from Marco’s family again today, with some sad news. It looks like he is going to be deported, and likely as soon as next week. Lawyers have been called, but they all say that nothing more can be done. Once the government decides to deport someone, apparently it can’t be stopped.

This makes me very upset, the poor guy has been a productive, law abiding member of society for more than 20 years, and wanted nothing more than to live here, work hard, and raise a family in the States. Now, after all he’s spent to make sure he was here legally, our government is throwing him out.

He has also asked me to sell a few things for him, which I will post in TreeBay. I’m not sure what they’re all worth because I’m out of touch with the used market, and I want to be sure I get fair value for him, so if anyone can help I’d appreciate it. This country might not do right by the poor guy, but I want to do my best to do right for him myself.
 
I'm dog-sitting for a friend who has long business ties in China, currently in China There are positives to massive surveillance, I hear. Safety from mentally ill and some crime. He said he would sent his 14 y.o. daughter to the store on foot in the middle of the night without worry. They're fluent.
 
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The video, recorded from inside a home, showed several people frantically talking in Spanish to what appeared to be 911 dispatchers, one of whom seemed to be translating for the other. The video did not show anyone who appeared wounded.

“Please, help us. We have children,” a man says after several people tell the dispatcher that the person in question had been shot in the leg.

The Department of Homeland Security said tonight that a federal officer had shot a Venezuelan man in the leg after what the agency said was an “ambush.” It was not immediately clear whether the shooting described in the video was the same one referenced by federal and city officials.

NBC News has geolocated the video to the same neighborhood in North Minneapolis, where officials said the shooting occurred. The video was posted around the time of the shooting.

The person who posted the video did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The person filming the video at various points opens the curtains of a window. Red and blue flashing lights from a vehicle can been seen outside.

“They were chasing my husband for about half an hour,” a woman in the video can be heard telling dispatchers. “They were trying to crash into him and he got to the house, and since we closed the door on them, they shot him.”

The woman tells the dispatchers that ICE agents are outside the property, trying to get in.

“Tell them they shot the door,” another woman’s voice can be heard saying. “Son, come. Son, come.”

At least two young children can be seen in the video.”

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Minneapolis ICE shooting live updates: Federal officer shoots man who DHS says fled traffic stop and attacked officer

Follow live updates as ICE protesters face tear gas as Trump admin promises tough response
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Shoot him in the eye, blinding him, draggin him off by the back of the shirt collar choking him.
 
Reach said:
I heard from Marco’s family again today, with some sad news. It looks like he is going to be deported, and likely as soon as next week. Lawyers have been called, but they all say that nothing more can be done. Once the government decides to deport someone, apparently it can’t be stopped.

This makes me very upset, the poor guy has been a productive, law abiding member of society for more than 20 years, and wanted nothing more than to live here, work hard, and raise a family in the States. Now, after all he’s spent to make sure he was here legally, our government is throwing him out.

He has also asked me to sell a few things for him, which I will post in TreeBay. I’m not sure what they’re all worth because I’m out of touch with the used market, and I want to be sure I get fair value for him, so if anyone can help I’d appreciate it. This country might not do right by the poor guy, but I want to do my best to do right for him myself.
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This is bad news indeed. What about go fund me? I would be down for helping Marco and la familia.

America is currently involved in some good old fashioned ethic cleansing, plain and simple.

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Head of Trump’s Immigration Plans Met Proud Boys Associate About Deportations

The head of President Donald Trump’s immigration policy, Tom Homan, appears to have met with an associate of the Proud Boys on at least four occasions.
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The Trump administration tells us they are rounding up criminals ("the bad hombres"), but the evidence says otherwise. In fact quite he opposite.

5% of People Detained By ICE Have Violent Convictions, 73% No Convictions​




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An ever-larger share of ICE’s arrested immigrants have no criminal record • Stateline

Immigration arrests under the Trump administration continued to increase through mid-October, reaching rates of more than 30,000 a month. But, rather than the convicted criminals the administration has said it's focused on, an ever-larger share of those arrests were for solely immigration...
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Reach said:
I heard from Marco’s family again today, with some sad news. It looks like he is going to be deported, and likely as soon as next week. Lawyers have been called, but they all say that nothing more can be done. Once the government decides to deport someone, apparently it can’t be stopped.

This makes me very upset, the poor guy has been a productive, law abiding member of society for more than 20 years, and wanted nothing more than to live here, work hard, and raise a family in the States. Now, after all he’s spent to make sure he was here legally, our government is throwing him out.

He has also asked me to sell a few things for him, which I will post in TreeBay. I’m not sure what they’re all worth because I’m out of touch with the used market, and I want to be sure I get fair value for him, so if anyone can help I’d appreciate it. This country might not do right by the poor guy, but I want to do my best to do right for him myself.
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So sorry that happened to your friend, thanks for trying to help.
 
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In slightly other news a handful of Ogala peoples are locked up with an ultimatum from Ice, the fine print allows for ICE operations on tribal sovereign lands.
The fucken sick and twisted irony is they are being held in Ft Snelling. The site of the largest mass execution in US history where 38 Lakota were killed by the federal government.
The tribe obviously is refusing to sign an operational agreement with ICE, can’t imagine why?

“The irony is not lost on us,” Frank Star Comes Out said. “Lakota citizens who are reported to be held at Fort Snelling — a site forever tied to the Dakota 38 — underscores why treaty obligations and federal accountability matter today, not just in history.”

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Oglala Sioux Tribe accuses federal authorities of treaty violation after four members detained by ICE

“Members of the Oglala Sioux Tribe are United States citizens. We are the first Americans.”
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The coming days and weeks are going to get very interesting.
 
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